Father Heathen
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Short term benefit. Long term detriment.Let's keep raping earth for our benefit,
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Short term benefit. Long term detriment.Let's keep raping earth for our benefit,
The needs of the planet trump the needs of a country. In fact, what this country needs is to quit clinging to an untenable status quo and make some provision for the future.
Biden and puppeteers have finally passed a bipartisan measure that this country desperately needs for the next 30 years at least.
There are restrictions preserving wildlife and the US Artic Ocean. So that's a win for environmental side as well.
Deny the climate crisis if you want, but maybe it would be prudent to err on the side of caution.It's not going to cause an irreversible runaway greenhouse effect, so it's not that big a crisis as one thinks.
You know the saying I think.I don't find climate change and our dependence on fossil fuels to be a partisan issue. Considering it affects all aspects and levels of society.
But that's ok. Let's keep raping earth for our benefit, taking more then we can ever hope to give back.
This will be a step toward lowering oil and gas prices, which will lower shipping costs and will then help to lower prices for all goods; lower inflation. Biden is being proactive, since if he wants to run as president again, A turned around economy, will be a positive for him. Green energy is not ready for prime time, which is why is needs to create a type of Big Brother monopoly which is illegal; Biden the Trust buster. The forced green monopoly of fear, has harmed everyone and needs to compete or go away. Stacking the deck does not make it better. That is a relative reference illusion; put others in hole to appear to rise. Competition will be better since it will need to rise and not just dig holes of others.What an incorrigibly stupid move. Shame on the Biden administration for not vetoing this colossal, childishly ignorant, fool’s quest.
What possible good can come from this idiocy?
Maintaining a system that discourages beneficial and inevitable change hinders necessary progress. It's penny wise and pound foolish.You know the saying I think.
Build a better mousetrap.
Develop a superior ev, keep it affordable, and I'll drop fossil vehicles like a hot potato.
That's why I like it.This will be a step toward lowering oil and gas prices, which will lower shipping costs and will then help to lower prices for all goods; lower inflation. Biden is being proactive, since if he wants to run as president again, A turned around economy, will be a positive for him. Green energy is not ready for prime time, which is why is needs to create a type of Big Brother monopoly which is illegal; Biden the Trust buster. The forced green monopoly of fear, has harmed everyone and needs to compete or go away. Stacking the deck does not make it better. That is a relative reference illusion; put others in hole to appear to rise. Competition will be better since it will need to rise and not just dig holes of others.
This will be a step toward lowering oil and gas prices, which will lower shipping costs and will then help to lower prices for all goods; lower inflation. Biden is being proactive, since if he wants to run as president again, A turned around economy, will be a positive for him. Green energy is not ready for prime time, which is why is needs to create a type of Big Brother monopoly which is illegal; Biden the Trust buster. The forced green monopoly of fear, has harmed everyone and needs to compete or go away. Stacking the deck does not make it better. That is a relative reference illusion; put others in hole to appear to rise. Competition will be better since it will need to rise and not just dig holes of others.
Nope. Your opinions are unlinked to reality.That's why I like it.
Someone on the left can actually see the forest through the trees this time.
If even the motivation is to save their electoral ***.
It's not entirely about the economy. It's partly helping the economy by lessening our dependence on foreign fuel and lowering the cost of fuel as a result.Nope. Your opinions are unlinked to reality.
The US has the capability to become carbon neutral by 2050 at the latest. Indeed, the driving force toward renewable energy should be on par or surpassing the drive to the moon landings. Those without the knowledge and foresight currently in government not should, but must, be removed. This is not pie-in-the-sky thinking; as the technology is present and going beyond what is needed. Weakness and naivete are all that hold us back.
Opening the Willow project "will be a step toward lowering oil and gas prices, which will lower shipping costs and will then help to lower prices for all goods; lower inflation...." is not based in facts. - - - Opening drilling in these areas will take a decade plus, along with surveys to analyze best methodologies and sites for drill construction, not to mention construction. And even then, it's not as though all of the oil will magically appear in the international oil market. Gas prices in Alaska are some of the highest in the nation, since none of that drilled oil goes into the tanks of cars and machinery in Alaska. It gets piped and then shipped down to California and Washington, where the refineries lay. Then the gas gets shipped back to the Alaskans who drilled it. Nice. Also, the prices are still set by international markets, so just by having local oil makes almost nil change in price. Driving your gas-powered car, and the trucks and trains hauling "all goods" will still cost the same.
As above, this will in no way resulted in "A turned around economy"
Your sentence @wellwisher involving "Big Brother monopoly" was non sequitur, but the only power/energy related monopoly is the gas/oil international conglomerates. They control the research and the press, telling you their wishes on renewable energy, so that you will support their whimsical desire to make ever more billions $$$. And you do certainly come through for them.
"Green energy is not ready for prime time" and "The forced green monopoly of fear, has harmed everyone and needs to compete or go away" is also as laughable as the Willow project giving us "A turned around economy". Truly pathetic. Laughable if it weren't such a serious problem. But, laughably pathetic in its naivete. Renewable energy already surpasses oil/gas for cost effectiveness wherever the equipment gets set up. As above, when you pass along thoughts and tweets that say the oil/gas industry is "doing it better", you are just passing along the monopoly's propaganda. Please stop being a lemming. As for fear-mongering; you have only to look at the gas/oil propaganda about
Outdated 2015 report. Since this report, gas has gotten more costly, and renewables have gotten more efficient.
Renewable Energy Market Update - May 2022 – Analysis - IEA
Explaining the Exponential Growth of Renewable Energy
On the other hand, a more thorough and rapid conversion to the inevitable renewable energy economy would result in an massive growth in the construction and installation businesses for government, commercial, and residential green power generators, storage, R&D, building insulation, rail-shipping-auto construction, etc...etc...etc... Not to mention the academic dominance in growing fields of applied sciences that could could arguably Make America Great Again.
If only the sheeple could grow up.......
Fossil fuel isn't likely going to cause a runaway greenhouse effect , so it isn't exactly a crisis to the extremes people like to tout it as for their pet agendas.The needs of the planet trump the needs of a country. In fact, what this country needs is to quit clinging to an untenable status quo and make some provision for the future.
Deny the climate crisis if you want, but maybe it would be prudent to err on the side of caution.
Considering the possible -- probable according to the experts -- catastrophic effects, why not go with a Pascal's wager?