Why was God's name removed from most bibles?

[YoursTrue]

I'm getting the sense that when others disagree with you, and provide documentation for their claims, that you resort to name calling and personal attacks.

You are contradicting and twisting the books you claim to honor.

 

[YoursTrue]

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Actually what many from various religions or sects claiming to support their viewpoints by the scriptures demonstrate so succinctly here, as one person said "the road is narrow leading to life and few would find it."

 

[YoursTrue]

the name isn't unique to jesus. god isn't a respecter of persons. this is why everyone that is baptized/immersed into the name should ruminate upon the name yet not take it in vain.

naming something gives the false impression of knowing something. to often as a object separate from self. the term in 3:15 is possibly derived from the name in 3:14 which makes it a deverbal noun. so that which is infinite can't be limited to anything. you can hint at it but dualist see it as something limited/separated from other. it can't be and be infinite = eternal = everlasting.

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Moses and the Burning Bush - Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses...

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Jesus is the son. Obviously there are many named Jesus, some in the Bible, too.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Simply not true. Yes, the 4 Hebrew letters can be determined to be recognizable by utterance. Sorry to say but for me to see your answers is sad. Very sad. And unjustifiable, another reason why I do not accept your so called reasoning on matters.

nope. without knowledge of the vowels, you have no idea how to pronounce it.

 

[Fool]

Jesus is the son. Obviously there are many named Jesus, some in the Bible, too.

i don't have a problem with jesus being the son

but unconditional love doesn't allow one to be loved more than another.


acts 17:28
28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’



1 John 3:1-2
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

 

[seekandfind]

He was raised by an Egyptian. If I am adding things, this idea you have that his bio mom taught him about Hebrews before he could comprehend speech is just as bad.

I didnt say she had to teach him while nursing. The point was he wasnt left on his own with the Egyptians, his mom was near.

 

[YoursTrue]

nope. without knowledge of the vowels, you have no idea how to pronounce it.

There were no vowels in the written documents until later. Much later. Doesn't matter though because the letters remained the same. Good thing for some. No getting around it about the name when a different word is used but that's not the reason the Divine Name of the God of Moses, Abraham and Jacob is hidden by many, as you probably know. You can't change the reality, sorry. The reality is that no "original" pronunciation of Hebrew is known today.
Besides, if ancient Hebrew were spoken suddenly today, quite likely a native Israeli today wouldn't understand anything.

 

[YoursTrue]

I didnt say she had to teach him while nursing. The point was he wasnt left on his own with the Egyptians, his mom was near.

Yes. He knew where he was from.

 

[YoursTrue]

i don't have a problem with jesus being the son

but unconditional love doesn't allow one to be loved more than another.


acts 17:28
28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’



1 John 3:1-2
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Jesus came from heaven. It's not the easiest to understand but it's a miracle, meaning beyond what is normally, naturally known. Jesus died so others might live. What does unconditional love have to do with this anyway?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

There were no vowels in the written documents until later. Much later. Doesn't matter though because the letters remained the same. Good thing for some. No getting around it about the name when a different word is used but that's not the reason the Divine Name of the God of Moses, Abraham and Jacob is hidden by many, as you probably know. You can't change the reality, sorry. The reality is that no "original" pronunciation of Hebrew is known today.
Besides, if ancient Hebrew were spoken suddenly today, quite likely a native Israeli today wouldn't understand anything.

I don't think the divine name is hidden by anyone. It simply is not said because we have lost knowledge of the pronunciation. You mentioned vowel points being added later in history. That is true, but the knowledge of the vowels was lost BEFORE that, so those vowel points are only guesses.

 

[Fool]

Jesus came from heaven. It's not the easiest to understand but it's a miracle, meaning beyond what is normally, naturally known. Jesus died so others might live. What does unconditional love have to do with this anyway?

everything comes from god. god is heaven. again if god unconditionally loves then god is not a respecter of persons.

 

[King Phenomenon]

His name wasn’t removed in my opinion. All Christian’s call him God.

 

[YoursTrue]

i don't have a problem with jesus being the son

but unconditional love doesn't allow one to be loved more than another.


acts 17:28
28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’



1 John 3:1-2
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as h

everything comes from god. god is heaven. again if god unconditionally loves then god is not a respecter of persons.

God is heaven? Where did you get that from?

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't think the divine name is hidden by anyone. It simply is not said because we have lost knowledge of the pronunciation. You mentioned vowel points being added later in history. That is true, but the knowledge of the vowels was lost BEFORE that, so those vowel points are only guesses.

Sure it is. It's covered over substituting the term Lord for the tetragrammaton. Not even close. Good that you admitted the sounds of all ancient Hebrew was lost long ago. Good for you!!

 

[RabbiO]

Good that you admitted the sounds of all ancient Hebrew was lost long ago. Good for you!!

That’s not what she said…. and I think you know it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Sure it is. It's covered over substituting the term Lord for the tetragrammaton. Not even close. Good that you admitted the sounds of all ancient Hebrew was lost long ago. Good for you!!

No, being respectful with the divine name by not using it casually in a mere translation is NOT the same as hiding it. It is VERY clear when it is in the text, because the word LORD is in all caps. So, nothing hidden.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, being respectful with the divine name by not using it casually in a mere translation is NOT the same as hiding it. It is VERY clear when it is in the text, because the word LORD is in all caps. So, nothing hidden.

You can't be respectful when you cover over a word, taking it out of translation more or less. Sorry, but the actual pronunciation of Hebrew was lost long ago -- I think you probably know it.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, being respectful with the divine name by not using it casually in a mere translation is NOT the same as hiding it. It is VERY clear when it is in the text, because the word LORD is in all caps. So, nothing hidden.

There are many translations. One thing I have to say is that at least (thank GOD) the Hebrew letters are not "covered over." God himself did not permit that. But many who go to synagogue or church or any other religion may not KNOW THAT God's name is not the LORD.

 

[YoursTrue]

That’s not what she said…. and I think you know it.

Talking about pronunciation. Are you saying the original sounds are known today of ancient Hebrew? But that's not the issue, is it?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

You can't be respectful when you cover over a word, taking it out of translation more or less. Sorry, but the actual pronunciation of Hebrew was lost long ago -- I think you probably know it.

Again, there is no covering, no removing, because we aren't talking about the Hebrew text. Your discussion is about mere translations. And even in the translations, I always know exactly when the divine name is being used because LORD is in all caps.

Look, you are repeating yourself. I am repeating myself. That pretty much means the discussion is over. You can have the last word if you wish.