Koldo
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It allows the Holy Spirit to work through you.
That's too vague. Could you be more detailed on what you mean by this?
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It allows the Holy Spirit to work through you.
there are no verses that offer the forgiveness of sins to eradicated the debt which is death.
On the other hand there is for atonement (from Romans 5, KJV Highlights mine);
[11] And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
[12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
[13] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
[15] But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
[16] And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
The atonement came as a free gift from Christ through His death.
While the Law came because of sin all it did was define it which is where "Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound." (Romans 5:20 KJV) has it's meaning.An increase of sin did not come in with the law. It doesn't say that. The law came because of the increased sin.
Rom 5:19 For just-as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Rom 5:20 (For) Law also came in alongside; with the purpose that, along with the increase of sin, that it could-thus then supersede sin, with abundant grace.
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The Holy Spirit is the instrument by which God guides the Christian. Unrepentant sin shuts down that guidance.That's too vague. Could you be more detailed on what you mean by this?
Because the body, which is where sin dwells dies. Christians will be resurrected in a new body free of sin.Why do christians still die if the debt has been paid?
Sin trumps God.The Holy Spirit is the instrument by which God guides the Christian. Unrepentant sin shuts down that guidance.
Nope. Romans clearly points out the separation of the flesh and mind. The Mosaic Law rules the flesh and the the law of faith rules the mind. The death of Christ allow the flesh of a Christian to be symbolically separated from their mind while alive and permanently after the resurrection. Therefore there are two separate laws and Christians are dead to their flesh and the Mosaic Law.So all the parts where Jesus mentions Moses as a real prophet and the Law of Moses being binding and seeing a vision of Moses must be interpolations in your view? Same would go for when Jude mentions Moses too, right?
It seems like we have a new form of revisionism every single day. It definitely speaks volumes that everyone seems to want to rip him apart from his Jewish context into their own baseless construction, you don't see that with many other prophets now do ya!
No it's God's choice.Sin trumps God.
If the penalty of your sins are forgiven then why do you still die?
The Holy Spirit is the instrument by which God guides the Christian. Unrepentant sin shuts down that guidance.
Only a man could pay the penalty of sin.
Because the body, which is where sin dwells dies. Christians will be resurrected in a new body free of sin.
The penalty of sin, death applies to all sinners. Christ's atonement applies to the resurrection. The body of a Christian, according to Romans, is where sin dwells and as such must die.I fail to see how this helps your argument any.
After all, even those who accept Christ's atonement still die.
You are applying the atonement to the wrong situation. It applies to the resurrection.In both cases the person dies though.
Neither the atonement nor the forgiveness prevent the debt from being paid.
The wages of sin is death. It isn't the inability to rebirth.
He was really a man. Sin only applies to man.But Jesus wasn't really a man was he? His birth certainly was not man like at all.
In the mind.Guides... where?
The Bible doesn't speak of his motivations.To put it bluntly:
Why would the man on Mark 2:3 want to be guided by God? What is in it to him?
You are applying the atonement to the wrong situation. It applies to the resurrection.
In the mind.
The Bible doesn't speak of his motivations.
Our reconciliation with God (Romans 5 KJV):Let's make it simple: What IS the atonement?
He was really a man. Sin only applies to man.