Tumah
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Judging from the bit I've seen of his work "scholar" is being quite generous.Wikipedia is not a top Messianic scholar. Dr. Michael L. Brown is.
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Judging from the bit I've seen of his work "scholar" is being quite generous.Wikipedia is not a top Messianic scholar. Dr. Michael L. Brown is.
So you can't answer the point I made and now want to invoke an entire book. Useless. If you can't support your own claim then this will be fruitless. I'll just refer you to Tovia Singer's website in the future so you can read the material of a top scholar.Here's some recommended reading that will answer a multitude of objections to Jesus:
Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Complete 5 Volume Set
Nobody here is paying for something you should easily be able to tell us yourself.
Judging from the bit I've seen of his work "scholar" is being quite generous.
So we have an archangel come down from Heaven with the authority to forgive sin, and you know more about what qualifies than God...Will this one also be an abject failure lacking the proper characteristics, traits and behaviors to qualify him?
So you can't answer the point I made and now want to invoke an entire book. Useless. If you can't support your own claim then this will be fruitless. I'll just refer you to Tovia Singer's website in the future so you can read the material of a top scholar.
I have yet to see an archangel. Now, sure, I have read posts from someone delusionally calling himself an archangel, but little does he know that he is chatting with Batman!So we have an archangel come down from Heaven with the authority to forgive sin, and you know more about what qualifies than God...
Have you ever thought you could actually have misunderstood the text, rather than assume God is wrong?
In my opinion.
I've seen Singer and a variety of elementary school students refute Brown and others. So I'll pass. No doubt whatever I posted from him you would just kick to the curb.I've seen Brown and others refute Singer time and time again. No thanks.
Thanks, but I'm worried about my IQ being lowered if I were to see any more of those things he calls "answers". I understand where he's coming from, I do. He's talking to Christians who are already maybe not that intelligent for having decided to believe in the NT despite it's terrible argumentation to begin with. So his arguments don't need to be that great and could afford to have a little smudging of facts. But as a Jew, I'd rather keep my mind sharp.Then you haven't seen enough of it. Keep plugging.
The thing is, you here right now are doing exactly the same thing Christians are doing in this thread and the same thing that distresses you.I think the ongoing argument is interesting, but as an outsider it's kind of distressing in a way to see all of you put so much energy into this. All of you abrahamists reject nature as your god, and nature will probably crush the human race in the next few hundred years. Nature does talk to us, and all of the abrahamists place nature on the bottom tier of reality
Both of you deny what I'm talking about. I'm in the thread to show you that this isn't some binary game here, and that all of it might actually be wrong. And you're all free to be wrong.The thing is, you here right now are doing exactly the same thing Christians are doing in this thread and the same thing that distresses you.
Did they not recognize Him as earlier prophesied in the OT?
Christians consider Him as Lord, Jesus Christ.
Maybe the Jews will finally get it on His second coming?
Yeah, the Christians are here to show us that the Jews read their texts wrong and you're here to tell us that we believe in the wrong god.Both of you deny what I'm talking about. I'm in the thread to show you that this isn't some binary game here, and that all of it might actually be wrong.
Elohim are Divine Beings that surround the throne of God, i.e Archangels...I have yet to see an archangel.
Did they not recognize Him as earlier prophesied in the OT?
Christians consider Him as Lord, Jesus Christ.
Maybe the Jews will finally get it on His second coming?
Yeah, the Christians are here to show us that the Jews read their texts wrong and you're here to tell us that we believe in the wrong god.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that what you're doing isn't too different than what the Christians here are doing.that Christians and Jews both have it wrong... and from my perspective you're all putting too much energy into this whole debate. That's all I have to say...
Mind rule 8.that Christians and Jews both have it wrong...
I believe that you are right but that this feeling began much earlier. Apparently in 2 Cor. 4:4, the author already had to explain why the people they believe should have been the most into it, weren't buying in.and being experts in the OT, they did not buy into the myth. And that must have been extremely disturbing to anyone trying to promote the Christian theory