Why Biden seems to me like a one-term President...

[PoetPhilosopher]

What specifically do you want him to do?

Universal basic income or monthly stimulus checks. More focus on whether it's do-able to have free healthcare. Trickle up instead of trickle down economic philosophy. More focus on trans rights.

Or if he takes the route of being more bipartisan, it could I think spell a few good things as well. In which case, there are some things NOT to do, like bypassing the filibuster as it will provide Republicans lots of political ammunition the next time they take control, causing them to do the same and worse.

I suppose that even if you're partisan though, not making the other side abandoned, angry and miserable might still be a good idea. You never know when you'll need their help later.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Can you at least try to add a little more depth to your posts

Sorry. My posts are coming in chunks as I'm on an Android phone with 2GB RAM.

 

[Jose Fly]

Universal basic income or monthly stimulus checks. More focus on whether it's do-able to have free healthcare.

Those are quite progressive, which makes me wonder.....do you think Republicans would go along with those? Manchin and Sinema?

Trickle up instead of trickle down economic philosophy. More focus on trans rights.

From what I've seen, he is doing those things. The infrastructure and BBB bills are both "trickle up", and Biden ended the ban on trans people in the military his first week. He's also supported passage of the Equality Act.

I suppose that even if you're partisan though, not making the other side abandoned, angry and miserable might still be a good idea. You never know when you'll need their help later.

I've not see where he's done that. I have seen however a Republican Party that is not only opposed to working with him in concept, but is now actively punishing Republicans who have done so.

The current iteration of the GOP is mostly about stopping Democrats from doing anything, and undoing past accomplishments. Folks need to acknowledge this reality when they call for Biden to "just work with Republicans".

Sorry. My posts are coming in chunks as I'm on an Android phone with 2GB RAM.

Understood. Maybe take a bit more time? There's no rush after all.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Those are quite progressive, which makes me wonder.....do you think Republicans would go along with those? Manchin and Sinema?

That's a hard one. Some might if so much money wasn't being spent on other things.

Didn't Manchin and Sinema vote "yes" on the bill with the $1400 checks, for example?

From what I've seen, he is doing those things. The infrastructure and BBB bills are both "trickle up",

I'm pessimistic when it comes to actually believing that the money will be used in a very "trickle up" way.

Biden ended the ban on trans people in the military his first week. He's also supported passage of the Equality Act.

More work needs done, with the push from the GOP to perform their own form of "cancel culture" on trans people including banning them from sports, etc. as an indication, as well as them having blocked medical care of some younger trans people.

I have seen however a Republican Party that is not only opposed to working with him in concept, but is now actively punishing Republicans who have done so.

The current iteration of the GOP is mostly about stopping Democrats from doing anything, and undoing past accomplishments. Folks need to acknowledge this reality when they call for Biden to "just work with Republicans".

Well, you'll never really get much bipartisan work done in politics, I think, with that overall mindset of the GOP.

Also, the GOP tends to follow the moves of their leader. The hardest part may very well be talking to McConnell and McCarthy.

 

[Jose Fly]

That's a hard one. Some might if so much money wasn't being spent on other things.

I don't think there's any way in hell any current Republican would vote for UBI or another round of stimulus checks.

Didn't Manchin and Sinema vote "yes" on the bill with the $1400 checks, for example?

If you mean the COVID stimulus, I believe they did. I don't think there's much call for another one, especially since the economy and job market are recovering.

More work needs done, with the push from the GOP to perform their own form of "cancel culture" on trans people including banning them from sports, etc. as an indication, as well as them having blocked medical care of some younger trans people.

I agree, but we have to keep in mind Biden hasn't even been in office a full year yet, and he's already done a fair bit. President Biden's Pro-LGBTQ+ Timeline - HRC

Well, you'll never really get much bipartisan work done in politics, I think, with that overall mindset of the GOP.

Right, so grousing about Biden not working with Republicans enough isn't really fair in that context.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Right, so grousing about Biden not working with Republicans enough isn't really fair in that context.

I was talking the mindset you expressed of the GOP in which they're just there to kind of obstruct. It's what they're doing, but I think it's worth exploring what the real motivations are behind it. If it truly is the case that they want something unreasonable or unworkable, like Trump set up as a king, then I'd just have to concede that your statements on this matter, that Biden can't work with the GOP, is correct.

 

[Jose Fly]

I was talking the mindset you expressed of the GOP in which they're just there to kind of obstruct. It's what they're doing, but I think it's worth exploring what the real motivations are behind it. If it truly is the case that they want something unreasonable or unworkable, like Trump set up as a king, then I'd just have to concede that your statements on this matter, that Biden can't work with the GOP, is correct.

It's what their base wants them to do. That block of voters has been convinced by right-wing media the democrats are evil communists, bent on destroying America and bringing in some sort of global socialist government. So they lobby their Senators and Reps to oppose democrats at every turn.

If their base really wanted them to work with democrats and punished them at the ballot box for not doing so, they would.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I'd vote for him just to see what he does.

If he runs as an independent, he can be Ham Solo.

He can campaign on reducing pork barreling, and stick to the high moral ground by not sending spam email to voters.
Rather than a beacon on the Hill, America will have a Bacon on the Hill.

Hammy 2024 - he'll remove the hogwash from Washington.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

If he runs as an independent, he can be Ham Solo.

He can campaign on reducing pork barreling, and stick to the high moral ground by not sending spam email to voters.
Rather than a beacon on the Hill, America will have a Bacon on the Hill.

Hammy 2024 - he'll remove the hogwash from Washington.

I see you didn't mention a Vice President. So the country will have to work hard to keep him alive, because if he doesn't survive the 4-8 years, the country goes down with him.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I see you didn't mention a Vice President. So the country will have to work hard to keep him alive, because if he doesn't survive the 4-8 years, the country goes down with him.

A world without ham is pretty grim. But if we're going to find him a running mate, I'd suggest anyone with 'eggs' in their account name. They'd be quite complimentary.

 

[crossfire]

If I understand it correctly, I saw Biden beat Bernie after everyone else dropped out and endorsed Biden.

I'm thinking that a lot of Republicans became Democrats for the Primaries and voted for Biden in the Primaries.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

That's a hard one. Some might if so much money wasn't being spent on other things.

Didn't Manchin and Sinema vote "yes" on the bill with the $1400 checks, for example?



I'm pessimistic when it comes to actually believing that the money will be used in a very "trickle up" way.



More work needs done, with the push from the GOP to perform their own form of "cancel culture" on trans people including banning them from sports, etc. as an indication, as well as them having blocked medical care of some younger trans people.



Well, you'll never really get much bipartisan work done in politics, I think, with that overall mindset of the GOP.

Also, the GOP tends to follow the moves of their leader. The hardest part may very well be talking to McConnell and McCarthy.

It sounds like you want him to be more progressive/left and more collaborative with the GOP. That doesn't sound realistic, no matter how noble the intent.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

A world without ham is pretty grim. But if we're going to find him a running mate, I'd suggest anyone with 'eggs' in their account name. They'd be quite complimentary.

We need to get the GOP voting for him, too.

And the GOP really likes Rittenhouse right now.

So maybe have @Revoltingest as the Vice President and it can be "Ham/Revoltenhouse 2024".

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

It sounds like you want him to be more progressive/left and more collaborative with the GOP. That doesn't sound realistic, no matter how noble the intent.

I see. That's what I was afraid of.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

We need to get the GOP voting for him, too.

And the GOP really likes Rittenhouse right now.

So maybe have @Revoltingest as the Vice President and it can be "Ham/Revoltenhouse 2024".

I'm gonna have to resign from my self-appointed voluntary position of campaign assistant manager.

I'm out. I might side with the vegan ticket and run against Hammy, much as it pains me.

 

[Sand Dancer]

@The Hammer for President 2024

2024 is Hammer Time!

 

[Revoltingest]

We need to get the GOP voting for him, too.

And the GOP really likes Rittenhouse right now.

So maybe have @Revoltingest as the Vice President and it can be "Ham/Revoltenhouse 2024".

I ain't no vice nuthin.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Biden might be to old for office after next election, he is not a young man

The concept of 'young man' is changing though. Our president Biden is no longer a young man, but is he above using ethically questionable life extension? I doubt it. I personally am interested in extending my own life span, and I'd expect nothing else from a career politician. Just because a thing is ethically questionable doesn't mean its the wrong way to go, either. Sometimes there is a T in the path, and both ways are unethical. It is much like when we vote for presidents here in the 'States. We get two choices.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'd vote for him just to see what he does.

I'll bet he unexpectedly dies before the 2nd election and still gets in office. Weekend with Bernie er Biden style.

 

[F1fan]

This is purely opinion, but if you look at Biden's record, as well as some of his statements on faith vs. policy, and the way he talks, like when he said "I think we need a black woman" when talking on who should fill roles in government, he comes off to me like a Republican as a person, maybe slightly less to the left than Mitt Romney. But then it's like he realizes he has to put on an act and be a Democrat as a politician, to fulfill a duty. I don't see him at all as "woke", in any case, or being able to handle the same caliber of tough issues as a few other possible candidates.

At the same time, before he got sworn in, he was promoting messages of what seemed to be "peace" to all Americans, but after being sworn in, his focus seemed to turn to only being for the Democrats. And to make things even more confusing, he sided with progressives on his social spending bill, it seems, despite Joe Manchin trying to "gum things up". Which is why you see such large and ambitious spending bills.

I have my concerns that in the process of all this, and in 4 years time, he may alienate both Democrats and Republicans.

There are simple and complex ways around such an issue, though. I find the simplest way around it, would be to be more bipartisan, despite the large cuts he'd have to make in the social spending bill, as well as act more like he did before he became President, fulfilling campaign promises to cut $10,000 student loan debt - and with no gimmicks attached as such things could backfire in regards to public perception. And to be the person that just does what is needed to restore the country and make peace, rather than trying to achieve too much and most of it not working out well, or rather than trying to increase the size of government when now may not be the time to do it, or in such a quick way.

I still think he's an okay guy, I'm just not real optimistic about 2024. Or even 2022 perhaps.

Just an opinion.

Knit-picking Biden over minor things is likely indicative of having just had 4 years of a president who is a constant liar, termendously corrupt, and divisive in any chance he got. Biden is boring. He's old, but competent. Is he perfect? No president would be after the problems the pandemic caused, and exaggerated with trump's poor leadership. I think a lot of us are bored, and we are hitting Biden over the head for not being more entertaining.

We aren't even a year in, let's see how things go for another year or so. Democrats are in the same situation as Obama was in his second year with the likelihood of republicans taking over congress and there being NO cooperation to work with for policy. Biden seems to be getting the priorities done now.