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Why Biden seems to me like a one-term President...

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Snow White, Nov 24, 2021.

  1. Snow White

    Snow White Veteran Member

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    This is purely opinion, but if you look at Biden's record, as well as some of his statements on faith vs. policy, and the way he talks, like when he said "I think we need a black woman" when talking on who should fill roles in government, he comes off to me like a Republican as a person, maybe slightly less to the left than Mitt Romney. But then it's like he realizes he has to put on an act and be a Democrat as a politician, to fulfill a duty. I don't see him at all as "woke", in any case, or being able to handle the same caliber of tough issues as a few other possible candidates.

    At the same time, before he got sworn in, he was promoting messages of what seemed to be "peace" to all Americans, but after being sworn in, his focus seemed to turn to only being for the Democrats. And to make things even more confusing, he sided with progressives on his social spending bill, it seems, despite Joe Manchin trying to "gum things up". Which is why you see such large and ambitious spending bills.

    I have my concerns that in the process of all this, and in 4 years time, he may alienate both Democrats and Republicans.

    There are simple and complex ways around such an issue, though. I find the simplest way around it, would be to be more bipartisan, despite the large cuts he'd have to make in the social spending bill, as well as act more like he did before he became President, fulfilling campaign promises to cut $10,000 student loan debt - and with no gimmicks attached as such things could backfire in regards to public perception. And to be the person that just does what is needed to restore the country and make peace, rather than trying to achieve too much and most of it not working out well, or rather than trying to increase the size of government when now may not be the time to do it, or in such a quick way.

    I still think he's an okay guy, I'm just not real optimistic about 2024. Or even 2022 perhaps.

    Just an opinion.
     
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    Biden might be to old for office after next election, he is not a young man :)
     
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  3. Snow White

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    Yeah, that might be. Though a lot of politicians are living a pretty long time these days. Maybe they just get really good medical care.
     
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    While the rest of us go broke trying to survive. Hmmmm
     
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    @The Hammer for President 2024 :)
     
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  6. Snow White

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    I'd vote for him just to see what he does.
     
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  7. Jose Fly

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    His policies are not at all "slightly less to the left than Romney". Do you have actual tangible examples of what you're talking about?

    Like what?

    Um, not sure where you've been lately but he just signed an infrastructure bill that was supported by 19 Republicans.

    And to you, that = "just to the left of Romney"? o_O

    Do you have any information indicating that Republicans would support a BBB bill in any form? From what I've seen, Republicans are pretty adamant that they won't support it no matter what's in it.

    Simply saying "be more bipartisan" is a nice platitude, but it isn't really helpful. Do you have any concrete, specific, and realistic ideas?

    Do you think Republicans would support that?

    Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. It seems like on one hand you're saying he should do more, but here you're complaining that he's already done too much. Also, "just do what is needed to restore the country and make peace" is another meaningless platitude. So again, do you have some actual concrete ideas on that?
     
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  8. Snow White

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    His policies aren't. But as a person, he is. Why this matters to me is that sometimes if you really want to focus on left issues, you have to be a person who is truly left, not a person just trying to act left. A person who lives it.

    If we're going to go left in politics, I think there needs to be more thought into the idea of taxing billionaires to get free healthcare. And I think it'd take a tougher candidate like Bernie Sanders to get such a thing done.

    Republicans follow their GOP majority
    leaders. And if you more than half the size of the bill, and don't try to bypass the filibuster, you could have had better relations with them.

    Doesn't matter as student debt can be cancelled through executive action.
     
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    I don't wanna have to bring the ban Hammer to Congress. No thanks :p


    Honestly, I don't like the spotlight that comes with politics.
     
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  10. Jose Fly

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    And what insight into his personal life and personality do you have?

    How? Do you think Bernie would magically convince Republicans to support that, or even Manchin and Sinema? If so, how?

    Do you have any actual information indicating that Republicans would support a BBB bill like that?

    But I thought you wanted him to work with Republicans?

    Also, I noticed that even though I asked you for real concrete ideas or solutions, you didn't present any. I notice this sort of thing a lot in political debates, where it's quite easy to throw rocks from the sidelines and throw around platitudes like "be less partisan" or "just get it done", but as soon as anyone asks for specifics, suddenly things get quiet.
     
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    The Democrats had several options in the 2020 elections. A couple of Black guys, several women, A Gay guy. Yet decided that the straight old White guy would be the best choice. :shrug:

    Politicians, IMO, are better at telling folks whatever is necessary to get themselves elected than anything else. The best actor/liar usually gets the job. Biden has had a lot of practice as a politician.
     
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  12. Twilight Hue

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    I doubt Biden will even survive long enough to make it to the next election. He's what? 79 years old now?

    Plus his mental capacity and capabilities are obviously in decline for some time now.
     
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    I saw that as a result of two primary factors. First, it was just timing. Bernie and Warren stayed in the race long enough to split the progressive vote, which greatly helped Biden (progressives couldn't unite behind a single candidate). Second, Biden getting the nomination showed there are still enough Boomer and older Gen X Democrats out there who want a more moderate candidate to sway the outcome.
     
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  14. Snow White

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    If I understand it correctly, I saw Biden beat Bernie after everyone else dropped out and endorsed Biden.
     
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    Both Warren and Sanders will still running during "Super Tuesday". They effectively split the progressive vote, and Biden emerged with an insurmountable lead. After that, Warren dropped out and less than a month later so did Bernie.
     
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    I think my dual complaint might work like this:

    If you want to get re-elected, you can do so by winning votes from both sides

    Or by being so good with your one side, that you get re-elected by the sheer number of votes that way on the one side.

    So you can be bipartisan, or you can be partisan and do it well.

    Biden strikes me more as partisan. But so far, it's been almost a year, and little of his policy has helped me, which I feel it should have after how much of Trump's policy and ideas hurt me, or in some cases, just kind of made my town much more partisan.

    His child tax credit doesn't help me. His billions for broadband doesn't. It helps a few people, but it doesn't secure my support or vote. There are other issues that still need worked on.
     
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    So you want Biden to be more partisan and progressive?

    What specifically do you want him to do?

    Is it just his Catholicism?
     
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    If he's going to be partisan, he should do a good job at it. It will make him a better representative of my Democrat side. Consistency is one of the things which could make for a good politician, too.

    But that's just one option.

    Also the way he talks, the language he uses in speaking, and what he says sometimes when he flubs his lines.
     
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    Well, I've asked you to be specific several times now and you've either not done so in your reply, or you've deliberately ignored the question.

    I've no idea what "If he's going to be partisan, he should do a good job at it" means in practical terms and I wonder if you appreciate how that contradicts your earlier complaint that he doesn't work with Republicans enough.

    Can you at least try to add a little more depth to your posts?
     
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