Who's fault the country is divided? You might be surprised. Or Not.

[VoidCat]

MarketInk: Who to Blame for Divided USA? Survey Says the News Media - Times of San Diego

I'm not surprised.

It's hard to discuss it without an example. I'm familiar with CNN, which I would expect to be more biased than NPR. During the violent demonstrations over the summer, on CNN, I repeatedly heard populist, nationalist, authoritarian. Approaching the election they added supported by white supremecists. After the election they added delusional and desperate.

reading both of these posts and among other posts I realize I have no clue what news source to watch or read...All I watched in regards to the news living with my grandma was Fox which I could tell was exteremely biased. Does anyone on here know of any reliable news sources or at least how to tell when a source is being biased?

 

[Twilight Hue]

reading both of these posts and among other posts I realize I have no clue what news source to watch or read...All I watched in regards to the news living with my grandma was Fox which I could tell was exteremely biased. Does anyone on here know of any reliable news sources or at least how to tell when a source is being biased?

I still like Reuters and AP. For how long I dunno, but they still come across atm as being ethical and posses journalistic integrity.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

reading both of these posts and among other posts I realize I have no clue what news source to watch or read...All I watched in regards to the news living with my grandma was Fox which I could tell was exteremely biased. Does anyone on here know of any reliable news sources or at least how to tell when a source is being biased?

Start here:
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/wp-co...2021-Unlicensed-Social-Media_Hi_Res-min-1.jpg
Now I won't tell you how to spot actual bias, but rather how to learn to spot based on comparing. If you pick 3 news sources. One center reliable, one left biased enough and one right biased enough and start comparing, then you can learn to spot the 2 obvious ones first - left and right. If you then continue and start reading some critical analysis from both a left and right source on the biases of the center, you can then learn that even the center has a bias.

So here is the end game. If you do this long enough and deep enough, you can learn that we all have biases. I have them and you have. But I at least for some of them know they are biases and that I have them.

 

[metis]

MarketInk: Who to Blame for Divided USA? Survey Says the News Media - Times of San Diego

I'm not surprised.

I remember that about a decade ago, some Pubs admitted that the creation of Fox by Murdock to be a "conservative" media source helped to create this problem here in the States. Heck, if we can't even agree with what the facts are, how can we solve the problems?

 

[dybmh]

Bear in mind that 2020 saw violence & racism on both sides,
with the left exhibiting more. The claimed support by white
supremacists is more of a left invention than a reality in terms
of numbers on the right.

Was NPR pushing the white supremacist connection?

 

[Batya]

Was NPR pushing the white supremacist connection?

Yes, they were. I listened to them pretty often, although I'm not very impressed by them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Was NPR pushing the white supremacist connection?

Yes, they do that regularly. But they pay little attention
to Christian nationalism, which I think is a much larger
component of the right wing threat.

 

[Stevicus]

I thought this was interesting:

ScientificAmerican.com - Why Social Media Makes Us More Polarized and How to Fix It

The problem of partisan bias is exacerbated on social media because online networks are often organized around a few key influencers. This feature of social media is one of the main reasons why misinformation and fake news has become so pervasive. In centralized networks, biased influencers have a disproportionate impact on their community—enabling small rumors and suppositions to become amplified into widespread misconceptions and false beliefs.​

Interesting article, although it didn't shed much light on who these supposed "influencers" are.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, they do that regularly. But they pay little attention
to Christian nationalism, which I think is a much larger
component of the right wing threat.

I agree that the Christian nationalists are a bigger threat, but I would be willing to bet that most white supremacists are also Christian nationalists.

 

[Stevicus]

Bear in mind that 2020 saw violence & racism on both sides,
with the left exhibiting more. The claimed support by white
supremacists is more of a left invention than a reality in terms
of numbers on the right.

I don't know if it's necessarily an "invention" of the left, since the country was essentially founded on white supremacy (among other things). I can't say what the reality as far as the numbers on the right who actually believe that. Since it was such a prominent aspect of US history for so long - and so many people went along with it and were conditioned to think in those terms, it's understandable that there would still be suspicion and underlying fears that such ideas could gain prominence again.

Of course, I always thought it was absurd to compare any American to Hitler or fascists - regardless of how racist they happen to be.

 

[Thief]

Worship is blind...

you mean to say?......we can't see God

 

[Thief]

I balked at the statement that NPR was frightening people that Trump was Hitler. The comparisson seems to be coming from social media.

NPR, from what I can tell, reports facts, provides context, and discourages comparing Trump to Hitler. Social media reinforces stereotypes, ignores or omits context, and encouraged comparing Trump to Hitler.

I listen to NPR everynight

they do toss the word....alledged .....
aimed to negate viewpoints
often to downplay statements by Trump

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree that the Christian nationalists are a bigger threat, but I would be willing to bet that most white supremacists are also Christian nationalists.

I'd bet they all are.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't know if it's necessarily an "invention" of the left, since the country was essentially founded on white supremacy (among other things).

Things aren't always what they once were.
Remember that Democrats were the pro-slavery party.
They've moved past that...mostly

 

[Thief]

Things aren't always what they once were.
Remember that Democrats were the pro-slavery party.
They've moved past that...mostly

yeah well.....we are all slave to the paycheck

the country is divided.....the have's
and the have not's

 

[Revoltingest]

yeah well.....we are all slave to the paycheck

You mean we must work in order to force people to give us money?
I can't wait til we become a non-worker's paradise, & get paid to not work.

 

[Thief]

You mean we must work in order to force people to give us money?
I can't wait til we become a non-worker's paradise, & get paid to not work.

there is a class of nonworkers...that qualify for what seems permanent assistance

but to FORCE a paycheck to my direction????????

I would vote for that party!

 

[Stevicus]

Things aren't always what they once were.
Remember that Democrats were the pro-slavery party.
They've moved past that...mostly

I know, although some of the same ideas still persist among the body politic.

 

[Mock Turtle]

reading both of these posts and among other posts I realize I have no clue what news source to watch or read...All I watched in regards to the news living with my grandma was Fox which I could tell was exteremely biased. Does anyone on here know of any reliable news sources or at least how to tell when a source is being biased?

Any online source of news might be judged by the quality of the comments, and hence perhaps reflecting the readership (not always), but not sure this helps since one might be tempted to view such as being 'my people'. The problem tends to be that the information one might be seeking is often buried in swathes of text, and often making one think, which is obviously not what much of the more popular media actually wants us to do.

 

[ChristineM]

you mean to say?......we can't see God

Not precisely but its one of the requirements