Who is the God of Abraham to you?

[The Kilted Heathen]

There's the question of who Abraham's god is, and what the Abrahamic god is today. I think there is a stark difference.

Abraham's god is Yahweh, a Canaanite sky/war deity that "won out" through cultural wars perpetrated by the Israelites, more-or-less still worshiped by modern Jewish folk.

The Abrahamic god (Captain God with the Capital G, God/Jesus Christ, Allah) is a catch-all confederation of divine attributes, often bickered over by adherents of Abrahamic religions who can't even seem to agree on the identity and personage of this "One True God" is, and largely illustrating the flaws inherent in Monotheism. Less of a spiritual deity, more of a personified Ideology born from the Roman Empire and deification of Caesar, "God" carries on the will of the Caesar, be it the pope, pastor, preacher, imam, or whatever else have you, as conveyed in whatever preferred version of the scripture is being utilized.

 

[pearl]

For me the words of Joseph Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) says it all;

Abraham, the father of those who believe, and also the father of our faith as Christians, one who, through faith, is also our father. The story continues with the blessings granted to the patriarchs, the revelation to Moses and Israel's exodus toward the Promised Land. A new stage opens up with the promise of an unending kingship the promise made to David and his descendants. The prophets in turn interpret this history, calling people to repentance and conversion.

Abraham, father of the people of Israel, father of faith, thus becomes the source of blessing, for in him "all the families of the earth shall call themselves blessed " (Genesis 12:3). The task of the Chosen People is, therefore, to make a gift of their God — the one true God — to every other people; in reality, as Christians we are the inheritors of their faith in the one God. Our gratitude, therefore, must be extended to our Jewish brothers and sisters who, despite the hardships of their own history, have held on to faith in this God right up to the present, and who witness to it in the sight of those peoples who, lacking knowledge of the one God.

 

[Gargovic Malkav]

Who is the God of Abraham to you?

To me He's my God and your God, and also God of those who don't believe in Him, because He's the Source and Ruler of everything.

 

[pearl]

The one God, the God of Israel.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?

To me Allah is genderless and without any limitations, Allah is within everything and within each person, but if we have the vail in front of our eyes human do not "see" Allah.
To describe Allah in human words i believe Energy would be correct.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?

"God of Abraham" the character in the Bible? I see him as the ultimate Mary Sue / Marty Sue:

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses.[1] Originating in fan fiction, a Mary Sue is often an author's idealized self-insertion. Mary Sue stories are often written by adolescent authors.[2]

The term Mary Sue was coined by Paula Smith, as a character's name in the 1973 parody short story "A Trekkie's Tale", which satirized idealized female characters widespread in Star Trek fan fiction. A male character with similar traits may be labeled a Gary Stu or Marty Stu.

 

[Link]

God is supposed to be approached by his doors. If you want to know the Abrahamic God, you have to know him through the successor of Abraham on earth, the leader and guide of our time. He is who God favored humanity through and the last means to get to God's pleasure. You want to know God's plan and how he works through believers on earth, you have to get connected to this guide. He is the connection between the heaven and earth, and is what connects you to God. Without this pointer to God, there is no way to know him, but rather, we will make up reality and get away from the truth and God and his Angels, and his Prophets and his Messengers can only help us as far we give them ability to, they won't force faith on us no matter what.

But you don't have to go far, as this tree of light is neither eastern nor western, he is rather a witness with every soul, ever close to them, their closest friend and companion on the journey, but most people can't recognize him though he lives in them.

Most people don't know this about Quran: it was revealed in sadness and meant to be read in sadness, they are tear drops from God that heal human hearts, but most people don't perceive.

 

[oldbadger]

Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?

I think of Him as Moses' guv'nor........ with a very very successful set of rules and laws for the development of an unbeatable people a few millennia ago......... as long as they are/were kept.

His laws were quite amazing.

 

[Nakosis]

Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?

A creation of the human psyche. This God's attributes change with the psyche that envisions them.

 

[Link]

A creation of the human psyche. This God's attributes change with the psyche that envisions them.

You are correct, except in the case of believers who get connected to the invisible connectors to God.

 

[Nakosis]

You are correct, except in the case of believers who get connected to the invisible connectors to God.

How would you know?
One God appears as real as the next.
I'm not judging, but people believe in the God that feels real to them.

 

[Link]

How would you know?
One God appears as real as the next.
I'm not judging, but people believe in the God that feels real to them.

The proofs of God that show who God is and as opposed to just him existing, are hidden in nature and are a matter of eyes of the soul(love) to see. The problem is a disbeliever by their denying nature yes won't be guided by them and will say if a door is opened from the sky and they ascend thereby that they are hallucinating or if done on a mass scale of humanity, they will say it's rather sorcery done upon them.

So how will a believer know, through reality of faith, they accept proofs that make them see God through his lights. And leaders of guidance are "lights of the knowers of God" (Ziyarah Aimma).

It's the same when death happens, the Angels of truth and demonic entities won't be properly realized through blindness as such disbelievers will side with Satan between death and resurrection day. This is despite a lower form of paradise is upon believers after death and lower form of hell on disbelievers, they remain blind to reality until the type of proofs on the day of judgment are shown.

The day of certainty where no soul has room to doubt is day of judgment, but it also when those who disbelieved will have no room to love God or see his beauty anymore (since the latter needs love to see).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Who is the God of Abraham to you?

Someone who is a violent, bloodthirsty, cruel and iron fisted dictator per the Torah, Bible, and Quran.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The day of certainty where no soul has room to doubt is day of judgment, but it also when those who disbelieved will have no room to love God or see his beauty anymore (since the latter needs love to see).

Why should we love someone who would eternally damn someone over a short life of mistakes?

 

[Nakosis]

The proofs of God that show who God is and as opposed to just him existing, are hidden in nature and are a matter of eyes of the soul(love) to see. The problem is a disbeliever by their denying nature yes won't be guided by them and will say if a door is opened from the sky and they ascend thereby that they are hallucinating or if done on a mass scale of humanity, they will say it's rather sorcery done upon them.

So how will a believer know, through reality of faith, they accept proofs that make them see God through his lights. And leaders of guidance are "lights of the knowers of God" (Ziyarah Aimma).

It's the same when death happens, the Angels of truth and demonic entities won't be properly realized through blindness as such disbelievers will side with Satan between death and resurrection day. This is despite a lower form of paradise is upon believers after death and lower form of hell on disbelievers, they remain blind to reality until the type of proofs on the day of judgment are shown.

The day of certainty where no soul has room to doubt is day of judgment, but it also when those who disbelieved will have no room to love God or see his beauty anymore (since the latter needs love to see).

Until the day of judgement then, an individual cannot be blamed for their short-sightedness.

 

[Link]

Why should we love someone who would eternally damn someone over a short life of mistakes?

Because he knows the nature of evil best to the extent no one hates it more then him, and knows the nature of good best, to the extent no one appreciates it more then him.

And he won't punish in hell except the most wicked, those who disbelieve and turn on their backs, and run away from the truth.

He won't punish people for simply not knowing truth. This is a misconception, in Islam, there is those without means to disbelieve or believe, and they maybe forgiven. Of course, any soul who strives a due striving will find God's ways, but as long as a soul doesn't envy the blessed tree of light and is not a hater to it's believers, than they will not to go to hell.

 

[firedragon]

Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?

Too many cooks.

 

[Link]

Until the day of judgement then, an individual cannot be blamed for their short-sightedness.

That is true, but closing one's eyes is different than simply not having enough light to see. A person who has no light because it hasn't been provided to him is different then one who closes their eyes when light is provided.

There is forgiveness for some people because they don't know better, but the haters of the light won't be forgiven.

 

[Irate State]

A myth enforced as reality.

 

[firedragon]

... a lens and unifying polemic on behalf of ethical monotheism.

Hmm. Interesting.