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whats your beef with brexit?

Discussion in 'European Politics' started by England my lionheart, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Altfish

    Altfish Well-Known Member

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    But it is so final.
    After a normal election you are stuck with the winners for 5-years; so if they've lied to get your vote, next time you know and vote them out.
    There were so many lies about the EU Referendum but we can't change our minds. There should be a second vote when the deal is done.
     
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  2. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    I think both sides lied but I don't agree on a second vote otherwise two years of negotiation might be for nothing.
     
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    I agree both sides probably lied; but one side's lies seem to be coming true...the other side's lies are being talked back and minimalized as if they didn't matter.
    The way the negotiations are going they could be for nothing anyway.
     
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  4. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    For myself my mind was already made up,never wanted to be part of the EU and see it as a failed project.

    For years we have asked for a referendum for years and now we've had one we should stick to the result.
     
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    I understand that, but if it had been as close in the other direction do you really think the Farages of this world would be saying, "Fair enough, we don't ever want another referendum"?
     
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    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Maybe but how many time can you have another referendum if its close,I firmly believe its done,never going to be easy,I don't see the EU being around in ten years anyway.
     
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    Well, we aren't helping its survival so we'll see.
     
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    - They aren't leaving fast enough

    - They somehow think that they have the upper hand when talking to 27 countries
     
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    I agree on "not fast enough",those 27 could be more realistic and help it happen,after all it will make it easy when they leave.
     
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    Why are so many British against reality?
    No one will leave beside the UK.
    And why would the EU set to destroy itself by giving the UK everything it wants?

    Absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    Its the EU that's ridiculous,of course we should pay something but not the rediculous amount they want,they want to discourage anyone else leaving by punnishing us its a house of cards that's why.
     
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    Yeah I get that, paying what you owe someone else is such a ridiculous concept.


    You don't get it. If the UK gets preferential treatment while leaving the EU without paying for basic EU services more than the EU members the EU would become redundant.

    But hey at least you get more money for your NHS.

    Oh wait. :D :D :D :D :D
     
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    When they provide us with an itemised bill we can scrutinise it and pay what is proved reasonable.
     
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    No you will exactly pay what we want.

    Wanna know why? Because you want something from us.


    I know, reality is a horrible thing.
     
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    Al Capone could have learnt something from the EU.

    It is a good job we have David Davis as our modern day Elliot Ness.
     
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    Its not extortion. You are free to just leave without any kind of access to the common market.

    Perhaps you could trade with India, Pakistan and South Africa.
     
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    Have you not heard of the WTO?
     
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