Altfish
Veteran Member
So, it boils down to deregulation.
Less workers rights
Lower food standards
More pollution
etc
etc
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whats your beef with brexit?
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Less workers rights
Lower food standards
More pollution
etc
etc
Notanumber
A Free Man
You could not call this Labour MP Brexit supporting so you must support him and his views then.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Why must I support him?
I agree with many things he says and disagree with others.
As long as its leader is pro-Brexit, the party is pro-Brexit
Notanumber
A Free Man
At least us Brexiteers have some good people to support.
I would hate to feel disenfranchised.
Tories are braced for FORTY candidates to quit and join Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party ahead of Euro elections
Brexit Party surges into the LEAD in European Elections | Daily Mail Online
Altfish
Veteran Member
I'll give you one thing ... Brexiteers are organised. Just like they were in 2016
Remainers are a disparate bunch of many ilks and are totally disorganised - a bit like atheists,
That is why we lost the referendum, lack of cohesion, not enough lairs on our side of the argument.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You had more than one liar, but you only needed one when you had someone of the standard of Mrs May. You cannot say that she could lie for England, but she could and did lie for the EU.
Do not forget that Remainers are delusional.
They thought that they could stitch up the British people without repercussions.
Jeremy Corbyn is very much a supported of Brexit, as both his words and his acts make very clear.
A sizeable portion of Labour MPs does not, of course. There is still some sense in Labour.
Still, the frustration was enough to give birth to the Independent Group, as I expect you to be aware.
I sympathise. It must be difficult.
And yet, she has been confirmed by the Tories more than once. Shows how difficult it is to find someone who could go any further than she has.
Supporting the snake oil salesmen and liars will not bring you anything better. Even most Tory MPs realize that, although the poison from the Brexit "leaders" lies ties them up politically.
Eh. Some chuzpah here. Brexit is delusion, don't you forget that.
What are you calling "stitching up" here?
Is this what you consider quality arguing? Do you realize that you are strawmanning with no hint of shame - or, frankly, of basic decency?
Altfish
Veteran Member
I am not delusional; you still have not given me one TANGIBLE benefit of Brexit other than the vague "Get our sovereignty back" type nonsense.
Project Fear is slowly turning into Project Reality and the Brexit liars are all on the Leave side of the argument.
Aaron Banks is getting closer and closer to his day of reckoning but the right wing media (including the BBC) is ignoring it.
Be fair. No one has managed such a feat, despite three years of trying - and that is only counting the time since the referendum. Besides, we now have plenty of evidence to the contrary.
You can not reasonably that to happen now that the ugly consequences of Brexit have already began to materialize due to the preparations for it by various parties and the price in jobs and prestige is a clear fact. It is impossible.
Not even Boris Johnson, JRM or Nigel Farage, who all have so much invested in the unicorn chasing discourse, are mentioning the unicorns now.
Actually, "Project Fear" is, and has always been, far better a moniker for Brexit than for anything challenging it.
The wishful thinking and doublespeak run deep in the Brexit campaign as well; not everything are just straight lies.
I will tell you that, British Media is depressingly sensationalist and irresponsible. It is very difficult to take anything beyond the Guardian and the Mirror very seriously at all.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Call me an old softie if you like but I feel sorry for @Altfish. He has nobody worth supporting in the upcoming elections. Maybe it is the same for you in Brazil.
The result of those elections will tell us the true story.
Now you have a clue.
Altfish
Veteran Member
It will not.
The Remain vote will be split between the main parties; the Leave vote will congregate around Nigel "I'm only in it for the money" Farage and claim victory. But you have to look in detail to weigh up what is actually happening.
And still not one tangible reason for leaving.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I have just found someone else that I would support.
Given a chance, I would vote for her without hesitation.
She speaks common sense with every breath and would make a far better politician than those that are currently playing at it.
Given a chance, I would vote for her without hesitation.
She speaks common sense with every breath and would make a far better politician than those that are currently playing at it.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Hilarious Julia Hartley Dooda is a complete muppet; the left love her for her inability to hold an argument together, Even your new mate George Galloway can;t stand the woman...
Notanumber
A Free Man
She was playing Devil’s Advocate and she played it very well.
George can be a prickly interviewee and she coped admirably. Hardly what you would call miserable and unprofessional. She made some very good points.
He said that he had won millions of pounds by suing people but just recently, he announced that he would not be standing in the EU elections because he could not afford it.
I agree with many things he says and disagree with others.
BTW, I watched your video before rushing in with comments.
I found this random comment on YT. If all of this is true (or even partially true) the EU must be undone as soon as possible.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Oh what a tangled web they weave when they practise to deceive.