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oh! and my opinion on the virginity issue...
i would say that because of the fall of man (adam and eve) any human being is not able to live life perfectly due to the fact that they are created in sin. Adam and Eve committed the first (sexual) sin, therefore any child born afterwards would be subjugated to that same sexual sin. They could not stop it from happening because that's just anatomy. So if Christ was born in a virgin he would have never commited that sin making him able to perform the atonement.
My thoghts anyways...
That's what I'm getting at.
I believe there is someone whom the stories are based off - but who is open for discussion. Personally, a revolutionary teacher/rabbi who has absorbed mystery religion influences.
Doesn't mean that's not what they would do.
Did you even bother to read what I said before you posted this? That's not what I said, at all.So your thesis is there were no parallel traditions at all to Christianity, before Christianity came along, it all just "sprang" out of the minds of the unknown writers
of the gospels?
That's harder to swallow than horse pills.
Probably, they would say, "free will"?Why couldn't the Christian god have made things much more convenient, and have Jesus born in this modern day of DNA testing. There would then be no doubt of a virgin birth.
Huh? Proof has no negative impact on freedom of will. If anything, it enhances free will by allowing us to make more informed (and consequently better) decisions.Probably, they would say, "free will"?
True, but tell that to them - I'm not one of them claiming that.Huh? Proof has no negative impact on freedom of will. If anything, it enhances free will by allowing us to make more informed (and consequently better) decisions.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/61358-would-proof-eliminate-free-will.html
The entry on Hinduism is inaccurate.List of virgin births - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here you go good sir.
Whats the facination with Born Of a Virgin?
perhaps the virgin birth parable attempts a similar metaphor to athena springing from zeus' head or buddha being born from his mother's side (at the level of the heart chakra). namely, that the godhead is born at, or into a higher/different level of consciousness than those born of the fleshly, animal act. just a thought.
Could we count the mythical Eve in there too?
No mother nor father and was a clone of Adam (Twin Sister)....
The Bible said:Genesis 2:21 (New King James Version)
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place.
Throughout history it seems new religions constantly emerge which are usually just minor alterations to either secular traditions, pagan tradition, superstition or just parts of other religions.
One thing that seems to stick in many of these religions even today is the concept of a virgin birth.
Why a virgin? Are virgins more moral? Is a girl who killed her parents but never had sex more moral than a girl who did have sex but lived a moral life? If a girl is a virgin is she precluded from doing evil acts? She has the gun, she tries to pull the trigger but as a virgin she simply can't do it?
Is a virgin birth considered a miracle? Is parthenogenesis considered holy or sacred? From my rudimentary understanding it occurs in nature all the time just not so much in mammals. (Although is has been done and could be done in humans)
Is the claim of being born of a virgin a jesus only story? Many gods and mythical personalities are believed to be born of virgins: Ra, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Hertha and Dionysus. (There are many more...)
Its an interesting story but it could occur naturally and non miraculously and how did the people who wrote jesus, ra or whoever was born of virgin even know? Did they do a DNA test? Did the nurse maid run a quick paternity test and pray to god to manifest so she can verify?
The whole theory seems to be a superstitious interpretation of older myths that was perpetuated because people just didn't know any better. (Anyone catch House btw? hehe)