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Dear Michel,michel said:The truth,
I have found an article that you will hopefully read, in order to understand the Trinity;
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/trinity_brief.htm
A Brief Explanation of the Trinity
Please see the website for the explanation - and the understanding of the confusion in ideas between Islam and Christianity.
I hope you will forgive me if I say that this is my final attempt to help you understand; I have answered your questions as best as I can, on two different threads, and either you do not understand, or you do not wish to; I hope it is not the latter.
Dear Scott1, I'm not trying to proselytize and if i want or i have the intention i was about to attach few verses of Quran in every post i send here but i'm not what you think i'm.Scott1 said:Truth,
How about starting a few threads and try to educate the forum about Islam?
Your lame attempts to proselytize by attacking Christianity are beneath you.... maybe not... we shall see.
Peace be with you,
Scott
Good to hear it...The Truth said:Dear Scott1, I'm not trying to proselytize
Nope... I just read them in light of the whole... it clears things up.Bennettresearch said:What I think everyone here is overlooking is Jesus' statements about being the Son of Man.
I disagree, but thanks for the reply!Bennettresearch said:Thanx for the reply Scott1. There was so much debate about Jesus as God I had to interupt. I think this theory about Jesus actually being God was a later development that found itself represented in the synoptic Gospels.
The Truth said:[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]'You shall have no other gods before Me.' [/font]( God said so to Moses before Jesus Christ was born ) then they claim there is another God ( Jesus ) and you are asking saying:
is that one cannot follow the 10 Commandments? and now everybody is worshiping Christ before God "the father".
ya ofcourse and this is what we were talking about when other people came after Jesus to claim ( according to what they believe in or understood ) that he is God but humbled which contradict with other verses which deny that totally.facetiousme said:I've been lurking and reading all the posts about disagreeing whether or not God and Jesus are one and the same. Both have great scriptural evidence either way. I find that there is a particular passage in the Bible that brings all of these argurments together and refutes the "contratidictions"
Phillippians 2:5-8
It clearly states the Jesus was EQUAL with God but HUMBLED himself and became obedient until death.
Personally I don't think the life and death of Jesus Christ would have affected us so tremendously had he not humbled himself and been a servant of God.
Possible, true. But I don't think it will be quite as popular as the book of Isaiah.The Truth said:and the name of the new chapter will be facetiousme.... possible, don't you think so?
Peace ...
And that my friend is precisly my point. He was HUMBLED, he was OBEDIANT, he was a SERVANT while not only being "one with God" but EQUAL to.EnhancedSpirit said:Mat. 10-18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Jesus says not to call him good, because only one is good, and that is his father. Jesus also refers to himself about a gadgillion times as the son of man.
Yes, Jesus said that he and God or one, but he also says that we all are one with God. He said that we are all like God's. He said that we too can do the things he does, with the power of Christ (the Holy Spirit of God) within us all.
Jesus was not to be put on a pedastal and worshipped as a God, he was our big brother, a child of God, teaching all us siblings -who are also children of God, the way to 'please' our father, and how to claim our inheritance.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that one scripture amongst all the scriptures, can tie something together. You cannot look at just one part of the bible. And there are many bibles.facetiousme said:And that my friend is precisly my point. He was HUMBLED, he was OBEDIANT, he was a SERVANT while not only being "one with God" but EQUAL to.
There are scriptures going BOTH ways, I don't deny that for a minute. The point being that one scripture ties them all together.
EnhancedSpirit said:"Jesus was not to be put on a pedastal and worshipped as a God, he was our big brother, a child of God, teaching all us siblings -who are also children of God, the way to 'please' our father, and how to claim our inheritance."
"But any one who does not realize that they are just as important to God, and loved by God as his own begotten son, they are shorting themselves out of fully knowing God. They are denying their full potential, and denying their inheritance."
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