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Featured What is wrong with smashing the idols?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by sovietchild, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. hadrianus

    hadrianus Ultra Secularist

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    Can I get an answer pls ? I corrected my mistake of chronology? Or maybe you have nothing to answer.....
     
  2. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    They are treated as non-Muslims by many or perhaps most other Muslims.

    We kuffar tend to consider them Muslims, if we are even aware of any difference among them, Sunny, Shia, Sufi and other sects.

    Edited to add: and that is to be expected. After all, the main objection against Ahmadis would be that they consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet and/or as the Mahdi.

    But we "kuffar" rarely if ever consider Muhammad himself to be a true prophet - that is a main reason why we are not Muslims in the first place.

    If we had any reason to mind the reverence towards Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, odds are that we would mind the reverence towards Muhammad at least just as strongly . Probably way more, since Ahmad's message is so much more respectful of us hell-bound unbelievers...
     
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  3. hadrianus

    hadrianus Ultra Secularist

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    All these images came on the page and I was careless. I corrected it.
     
  4. hadrianus

    hadrianus Ultra Secularist

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    A cap with a cute face. No,it is of Tom of Finland.
     
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  5. sovietchild

    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that like a sheep wolf?
     
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    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    Can you provide me with a Quran verse? You asked me to provide you. Can you provide me?
     
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    Can you provide me with a Quran verse? If you don't follow any hadith, then where did you get this info?
     
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    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    Bump. @paarsurrey

    Are you gonna keep ignoring me?
     
  9. paarsurrey

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    I didn't get one exactly. Please
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  10. sovietchild

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    You demanded me to provide you with a verse. Right?

    Please, provide me with a verse.
     
  11. A Greased Scotsman

    A Greased Scotsman THIS is a sword. And it's bigger than yours!

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    Good luck in your wait.
     
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  12. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    Could Muhammad do something against the Quranic Revelation? Please
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  13. sovietchild

    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    Provide me with a verse. Don't ask me to fight with gloves because you don't have any either.
     
  14. paarsurrey

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    One's source as one mentioned was based on history of the time of Muhammad. When was the first history book written narrating the event ? Please
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    What is wrong with smashing the idols?
    Is it equitable on part of of the non-believers to put idols in a worship-house constructed solely for the worship of ONE-GOD? Please
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  16. sovietchild

    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    Are you the one who proclaims himself as peaceful Muslim? If so why do that when statistically Muslims are known to be peaceful.
     
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  17. paarsurrey

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    Sorry, it is off-topic. Please
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    A Greased Scotsman THIS is a sword. And it's bigger than yours!

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    How is proclaiming that Muhammad didn't engage in destruction of property defaming Islam?
     
  20. sovietchild

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    False statement for example. He stated that Mecca people themselves destroyed the idols. This is an attempt to rewrite the history of Islam. The foundation of Islam. Attempting to injury it and change the course.
     
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