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That was the karate punch of info! Thank you thank you! This is just what I started this thread to learn about.
I know I maybe could have shared more in the beginning to help move this along but this is the nature of a discussion. Back and forth.
I was really starting to doubt this was the place for me. As you have probably read I have been subtly accused of a lot here before the conversation even began. It was also suggested in private conversation here that I am a drug addict.
"So, never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Sufficient for each day is its own badness." (Matthew 6:34)
I love that. It is philosophical and logical. I have copied and pasted your entire message for later contemplation.
Also thank you for reassuring in some way that my relationship with God is acceptable. It's funny almost every time I pray I yawn over and over and cannot get my words through. I have always laughed and said, "I get it. You already know." lol
Also I never understood why people say, "amen" like it means I'm done or the end. From the way I understand it means in truth or said in honesty. God knows hahah. I never said Amen because no one could explain it. So for a long time I just finish my prayers by saying, "I love you God".
I often imagine God being emotional like the old testament speaks of. If God has emotion then what other emotions does God experience? So I sometimes pray saying I hope your handleing us OK and we are not upsetting you too much and talk about some of the nonsense on earth. Supprisingly those are the prayers where I am not yawning over and over and over.
Not sure what if anything that means but I love God and when I used to say it it felt good.
Lately I have had soo much doubt put in me about loving God properly or addressing him in a specific way.
This makes me feel better about how I felt in me heart about our relationship.
Perfect just was I was looking for!
Thank you for the time you spent gathering and typing that body of knowledge.
Nathan
Hello Deeje,Hey Nathan, happy to oblige. The good thing about a discussion on a public forum, is that its not only the participants who can share the conversation. Many who never post, just read. If they learn something from the exchange, that's wonderful!
Everyone has to make up their own mind about these things. But informed choice is most beneficial.
To be honest, most people are drug addicts...its just that the drugs they choose are legal. Drugs are usually sought to make pain manageable....who is not in pain...emotionally....physically....mentally, these days?
Someone in chronic pain, if they are subject to the orthodox medical system, are more than likely opioid dependent. That is hardly their fault. They are not given a lot of choice.
Many others seek relief in a bottle of something else, or in some other "medicine" that helps them deal with life. Its too easy to point fingers and lack understanding...something God does not do.
Whilst he expects us to obey the law, he fully understands the reasons for the devastating rate of addiction in the world today....and offers hope and a better way to deal with the pain. Never forced but always encouraged. Once you know God, you will feel his hand on your shoulder.....
Isaiah 30:21...
"Your own ears will hear a word behind you saying: ‘This is the way. Walk in it, you people,’ in case you people should go to the right or in case you should go to the left.”
There is one road to life and God will help us find it and stay on it. (Matthew 7:13-14)
He knows what we need, but also whether we are depending on him, or trying to do it all in our own strength.
He reads hearts, not just minds.
"Amen" means "so be it,” or “surely.” The word comes from the Hebrew root word ʼa·manʹ, which means “to be faithful, trustworthy.” “Amen” was said in agreement to an oath, a prayer, or a statement. In Revelation, it is even used as a title for Jesus. (Revelation 3:14)
Since we are "made in God's image and likeness" we reflect his emotions as well....love, regret, anger, compassion, pity, long-suffering...all of these are based on LOVE. In Greek, this love is "agape" which is not a love based on transient emotion, but on principal. We can love even an enemy with this kind of love.....if someone mistreats us or persecutes us unfairly, we can employ this love by not allowing the negative emotion that this generates to overtake us, but to still treat that person with agape.....a love that stifles hatred.
God leads us to his truth if we are genuine. No one can become a disciple of Jesus unless they get the OK from his Father first.....imagine! getting an invitation from the Creator himself! (John 6:65) We will understand nothing if that does not happen. That doesn't stop people from putting their own spin on the Bible's message however, which I see in very clear and simple terms. Not something you need a degree in theology to understand. In fact a degree in theology might just point you in the opposite direction.
My pleasure.....ask whatever questions you like.
Hello Aupmanyav,Accept with gratitude. Never be ungrateful (within the limits of 'dharma', righteous conduct).
Accept with gratitude. Never be ungrateful (within the limits of 'dharma', righteous conduct).
Hello Rival,Accepting help is no problem, and may even be compulsive if one would otherwise hurt oneself or others, whether directly or indirectly. By not accepting help, not only do you deprive yourself but others of being able to carry out charitable acts. Accepting help is exactly what it sounds like you need to do right now, as well as having serious talks with the people who want to help you but won't step up.
Hello Vinayaka,If a person legitimately needs help, they should enthusiastically accept it.
I didn't mean to imply that you did.I do not mean to sound like I'm better than an addict.
Adiction is an easy problem to have when life gets tough. I tell my friends every day, " I don't know how I am not an alcoholic or abusing my medication." I feel extremely fortunate that I do not have this problem. Or eating for pleasure. In the USA that is a huge problem too. Eating to feel good. I am living the perfect recipe for addiction and substance abuse. I also work very hard at keeping my feelings of giving up and drinking alcohol with my medications at bay. I fight that urge every day and I'm not an addict (meaning I'm fighting the urge but I don't have a problem with adiction, or luckily I have never had an addictive personality. That would make it sooo much harder).
You have.You have treated me with kindness and respect and I appreciate that. I hope i have shown you the same.
I look forward to using another forum here to learn about Jesus. The new testament and Jesus is one of the most confusing parts of Christianity for me.
I appreciate your ability to break apart my comments and speak the them. That is a talent and you have a knack for it!
Hello Vinayaka,
Thank you for your encouragement to accept help enthusiastically.
One of my problems is that although I need help I do not want to burden anyone.
I am only speaking about friends, family, or the community. I do not feel this way about paid professionals who should have pride and integrity to provide a good service. Although I express my heartfelt thanks to all professionals that afford their time to me.
Thank you for your message.
Nathan
I am in a place where I need help. I have been independent my entire life until recently.
I find it hard to accept help, and when I do open up to accept it most people do not follow through.
I am curious what the world's belief systems / religions have to say about this.
I can only find information about giving and helping others, but nothing about being handicapped and receiving help.
Also how to cope with the endless ammounts of people who say a lot but do little (resulting in missed opportunities or more suffering).
I know a little about kharma and I understand I could be paying for my sins, so to speak, but I still need guidance while I am in this body on this earth.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I am in a place where I need help. I have been independent my entire life until recently.
I find it hard to accept help, and when I do open up to accept it most people do not follow through.
I am curious what the world's belief systems / religions have to say about this.
I can only find information about giving and helping others, but nothing about being handicapped and receiving help.
Also how to cope with the endless ammounts of people who say a lot but do little (resulting in missed opportunities or more suffering).
I know a little about kharma and I understand I could be paying for my sins, so to speak, but I still need guidance while I am in this body on this earth.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I am in a place where I need help. I have been independent my entire life until recently.
I find it hard to accept help, and when I do open up to accept it most people do not follow through.
I am curious what the world's belief systems / religions have to say about this.
I can only find information about giving and helping others, but nothing about being handicapped and receiving help.
Also how to cope with the endless ammounts of people who say a lot but do little (resulting in missed opportunities or more suffering).
I know a little about kharma and I understand I could be paying for my sins, so to speak, but I still need guidance while I am in this body on this earth.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I am in a place where I need help. I have been independent my entire life until recently.
I find it hard to accept help, and when I do open up to accept it most people do not follow through.
I am curious what the world's belief systems / religions have to say about this.
I can only find information about giving and helping others, but nothing about being handicapped and receiving help.
Also how to cope with the endless ammounts of people who say a lot but do little (resulting in missed opportunities or more suffering).
I know a little about kharma and I understand I could be paying for my sins, so to speak, but I still need guidance while I am in this body on this earth.
Thank you for your time and consideration.