Aquitaine
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kai said:
"Basra, like other major Iraqi towns, still goes without electricity for the largest part of the day."
Oh now look at that.............. How many years has this taken again?
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kai said:
Kai said:
Your right, but it should be somebodies job. There should be a move toward some mechanism to providing rapid reaction to acts of genocide.
I feel fine about it
That should have been considered before any actual invasion plans were made though. It should have been known that Saddam, although a violent dictator, kept the opposing factions at bay as best as could be done. With no one to rule with an iron fist, the only foreseeable outcome in such a region is civil war. Even when the troops are gone, a democratic rule will not last long as, nor will any rule until the next dictator comes along and rules in such a manner that will leave citizens not wanting to go against him. And whats worse, the next could be even worse than Saddam.Once the forces that dont want to see a free Iraq set about their work we had no choice but to stick it out.
In my opinion, yes.
Your right, but it should be somebodies job. There should be a move toward some mechanism to providing rapid reaction to acts of genocide.
In my opinion, yes.
was? you think it is over?
i think not
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It's no wonder Wannabe Yogi, why US is refereed to by the Arabs as the evil-one. To me, iT all seems like this; Take away their freedom, then give them freedom; Bomb and destroy their country, then provide them first aid and hospital; Pretend to be a good doer, but the focus is really on the oil; etc etc..what a FAKE !!I do believe that we (Americans) have a responsibility to rebuild their country because we not only Invaded it, but did it under false pretenses. We must get out of Iraq as soon as possible and let the Iraqi people run there own lives.
In your opinion, what (exactly) justifies the $719 Billion spent, the lives of close to 5,000 US soldiers, the maiming of another 30,000 US soldiers, and the deaths of something well over 100,000 Iraqi citizens?
How about George Bush and Dick Cheney thought it would be a good idea to enrich their friends in the military industrial complex? Does that work as a legitimate reason to invade?
In your opinion, what (exactly) justifies the $719 Billion spent, the lives of close to 5,000 US soldiers, the maiming of another 30,000 US soldiers, and the deaths of something well over 100,000 Iraqi citizens?
COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War
Was it our need to eliminate the WMD's that didn't exist?
Maybe it was our need to overthrow the government of a sovereign nation?
Or was it the need to secure our supply of oil?
Well, RomCat - what have you got?
If i may?
most of those figures are post war, the lack of planning for the post war situation in Iraq, is responsible for the turmoil that followed a successful invasion, and routing of Saddam's forces with the toppling of his regime.
Its the post war planning or should i say almost total lack of it.That cost many many lives.
Asked whether the Pentagon took steps to involve Britain in the planning, Chaplin said: "They didn't take many steps to involve their own colleagues in the administration in planning."
Iraq war inquiry: British attempts to improve postwar planning for Iraq 'ignored by US' | UK news | guardian.co.uk
in its introduction, the memo "Iraq: Conditions for Military Action" notes that U.S. "military planning for action against Iraq is proceeding apace," but adds that "little thought" has been given to, among other things, "the aftermath and how to shape it."
Memo: U.S. Lacked Full Postwar Iraq Plan - washingtonpost.com
If i may?
most of those figures are post war, the lack of planning for the post war situation in Iraq, is responsible for the turmoil that followed a successful invasion, and routing of Saddam's forces with the toppling of his regime.
Its called the fog of war. Once it starts you never know whats going to happen.
How about George Bush and Dick Cheney thought it would be a good idea to enrich their friends in the military industrial complex? Does that work as a legitimate reason to invade?
To be honest, Kai, you and I are almost always on different sides of this issue, but I enjoy seeing your posts, and reading your take on it.
Thank you! i always check to see what you have to say, some of my favourite posters are some of the people i dissagree with.
We are in agreement, in that the complete lack of planning and forethought about the aftermath of the invasion is compounding the problems in postwar Iraq. For my money, it is all one bundle. I guess I feel like, if you don't have a plan for the outcome, you shouldn't even consider going in. Call me "old school".