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Was Muhammad a good man?

What is your opinion on Muhammad?

  • He was a great man and those who insult him must be punished!

    Votes: 60 27.9%
  • He was a great man, but people are free to insult him

    Votes: 47 21.9%
  • He was not a good man, but we should respect him because I believe in respecting other religions

    Votes: 23 10.7%
  • He was a terrible man and we should condemn his awful actions!

    Votes: 85 39.5%

  • Total voters
    215

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to faruk
A woman in Almkhalah waive all rights even get rid of the guy ---
She gives the money to the man in exchange to get rid of it ---
So get rid of the state nushuz beating ---
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
Didn't Jesus pay for your sins ?!!
Does that fact change a single word of what I stated. Yes he paid it, no it is not automatically applied to my status with God at my birth. I have never met a single Christian who accepted Christ without first experiencing the shame their sins had caused.
 
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farouk

Active Member
to feargod -
yes this question
Offer you this example ---
You to follow all of this dialogue ---
There are three people -
The pros and Farouk Jaber
Pros committed mistakes --- === prophets of the Jews
Farouk did not commit the mistakes of Christ --- =====
Jaber also committed mistakes Mohammed ====
Which is better -----???????????

Mahasn my friend.
I don't think any one understand what you talking about.
Who is this pros,Farouk and Jaber?
Please explain.
 

farouk

Active Member
to faruk
A woman in Almkhalah waive all rights even get rid of the guy ---
She gives the money to the man in exchange to get rid of it ---
So get rid of the state nushuz beating ---

Mahasn brother
Let me understand your question correctly.
Are you asking if a women is justified by paying her husband money if she wishes to divorce him?
Is that your question.
Peace
Farouk
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Offer you this example ---
You to follow all of this dialogue ---
There are three people -
The pros and Farouk Jaber
Pros committed mistakes --- === prophets of the Jews
Farouk did not commit the mistakes of Christ --- =====
Jaber also committed mistakes Mohammed ====
Which is better -----
Leave the answer from you and to pursue this dialogue
And proof that the Jews do not deny the mistakes of the prophets -
That's waiting for Christ to full day ---
to faruk and feargod --
this my last questions in post 2272
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
My important question is is the analogy manner ----
Suppose that there are three people -
First the <pros> or any name and the second Farouk or any name and third or any name Alwan ----
the first< pros> Committed the sins and virtues of this analogy Jewish prophets who committed sins and mistakes
The second< Farouk> did not commit the error in his life
This analogy is Christ
And the third is the< Alwan>, this analogy is Muhammad that mistakes like the pros ---
The question is which one of the three best ---
The question is clear and understandable---
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to faruk
<Let me understand your question correctly.
Are you asking if a women is justified by paying her husband money if she wishes to divorce him?
Is that your question.>
ask about
This is in response to Almkhalah ---
I explained briefly Almkhalah ---it is Of Islamic law--
Yes in Almkhalah the woman waive their rights deferred dowry
It can take off itself that give money to the man -
Even fired -
Because divorce right in the hands of the man and not in the hands of woman
Should go and ask for this important difference ---
A woman ask for separation and can not ask for a divorce ----READINGS if any law of personal status laws in any Arab country ---
You'll learn the meaning of divorce and separation and Almkhalah and nushuz ---
This material legal Islamist
Western laws Almkhalah do not know and do not know and do not know to differentiate differentiate -
I hope that you understand your religion and introducing us as
 

farouk

Active Member
to faruk
<Let me understand your question correctly.
Are you asking if a women is justified by paying her husband money if she wishes to divorce him?
Is that your question.>
ask about
This is in response to Almkhalah ---
I explained briefly Almkhalah ---it is Of Islamic law--
Yes in Almkhalah the woman waive their rights deferred dowry
It can take off itself that give money to the man -
Even fired -
Because divorce right in the hands of the man and not in the hands of woman
Should go and ask for this important difference ---
A woman ask for separation and can not ask for a divorce ----READINGS if any law of personal status laws in any Arab country ---
You'll learn the meaning of divorce and separation and Almkhalah and nushuz ---
This material legal Islamist
Western laws Almkhalah do not know and do not know and do not know to differentiate differentiate -
I hope that you understand your religion and introducing us as

Mahsan
Before i teach you Islamic Marriage Law i have one more question.
What is meaning of word "nushuz" in english launguage.
Peace
Farouk
 
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farouk

Active Member
My important question is is the analogy manner ----
Suppose that there are three people -
First the <pros> or any name and the second Farouk or any name and third or any name Alwan ----
the first< pros> Committed the sins and virtues of this analogy Jewish prophets who committed sins and mistakes
The second< Farouk> did not commit the error in his life
This analogy is Christ
And the third is the< Alwan>, this analogy is Muhammad that mistakes like the pros ---
The question is which one of the three best ---
The question is clear and understandable---

Mahasn my brother.
I have great problem understanding your question but i have patience and trying my best .
Let me understand your question again.
1.Jewish prophets committed sins and mistakes.
2.Christ came he committed no sins and mistakes.
3.Prophet Muhammad(PBBUH) committed sins and mistakes.
Your question is who is best from all 3.
Is this your question.
Peace
Farouk
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Mahasn my brother.
I have great problem understanding your question but i have patience and trying my best .
Let me understand your question again.
1.Jewish prophets committed sins and mistakes.
2.Christ came he committed no sins and mistakes.
3.Prophet Muhammad(PBBUH) committed sins and mistakes.
Your question is who is best from all 3.
Is this your question.
Peace
Farouk
yes that is my question---
in past post to you --you ask about jews and iam reply your ask in this simple idea ---
if there is mistake in thorat --if i agree you ---
because the Our interpretation differs from your interpretation of the Torah ---The Torah does not say that the prophets are infallible on the error ----
Because the prophets of the Jews admit mistakes ---
The Bible said that is without Christ is mis ----
And Mohammed mistakes ----
If Muhammad best of Christ ---
It must be like Christ without sin ----
But Mohammed are many mistakes ---
Which is better, my friend.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to faruk --
i not need you to teach me the islamic law ---
if not know the meaning <al neshoze>
who you teaching me your law ---
You must going to read the verse that allow you to beat a women and you'll find the word <<al -neshoze>
---
 

farouk

Active Member
to faruk --
i not need you to teach me the islamic law ---
if not know the meaning <al neshoze>
who you teaching me your law ---
You must going to read the verse that allow you to beat a women and you'll find the word <<al -neshoze>
---

Mahasn my friend
What you know about Islamic Law is nothing but propaganda.
Now i ask you simple question.
You use word "nushuz" but you cannot give me meaning of word.
If you do not know meaning of simple word "nushuz" then how can you understand Islamic Marriage Law.
Please Mahasn you making a fool of yourself.
If you cannot give me answer then i cannot teach you truth.
Peace
Farouk
 

farouk

Active Member
yes that is my question---
in past post to you --you ask about jews and iam reply your ask in this simple idea ---
if there is mistake in thorat --if i agree you ---
because the Our interpretation differs from your interpretation of the Torah ---The Torah does not say that the prophets are infallible on the error ----
Because the prophets of the Jews admit mistakes ---
The Bible said that is without Christ is mis ----
And Mohammed mistakes ----
If Muhammad best of Christ ---
It must be like Christ without sin ----
But Mohammed are many mistakes ---
Which is better, my friend.

Mahsan
I don't think you know what you talking.
Previous post you say Jewish prophets commit sin now you using word mistakes.Note there is very big difference between mistakes and sin.You need to understand english words before using them.
Then you talking about Jewish prophets.Who is Jesus(PBBUH)?
Was he not Jewish?
If you make a statement about prophets making sin and mistakes then you must name the prophets and produce your evidence.
I can make a whole lot of bad,bad remarks about Jesus(PBBH) but if i don't produce evidence then it makes me look like a fool.Now please if you make such stupid remarks about any prophets then you must produce evidence.
You say prophet made sin now give us names and produce evidence.
Peace
Farouk
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
To Farouk -
Thank you ---
I know what I'm saying well ---
Here's the proof ----
--- we read the thoraht this information &#8211;
In the thoraht
First of all prophets born of mother and father ---
But Christ was the Word of God ---
Secondly, the mistakes of the prophets of the Jews -
1 - Ibrahim was worshiped God ur Chaldean before come out ---
In other words, he engages with God without knowing him ---
Secondly Ibrahim said his sister, Sarah, and his wife is not in the migration to the Promised Land ---
2 - Moses, the first act of him that he killed the Pharaonic ---
And fled to the land of Madyan ---
Secondly, no one executes the orders of God to him literally and this punishment was that he did not enter the Promised Land

3-David's first work he has done he killed Goliath the Philistine in the battle between the two sides ----
And also what to do from sexual practices ---
4-Suleiman and his deeds of his father due to his violation of orders and many divine in his life ---
And others of the prophets of the Jews -
But with an important advantage ----
All the prophets have declared they are waiting for the Savior who saves the children of Israel and the world and has to be back the kingdom of God -

But the Christ came and lived his life without committing any mistake or sin -
1-He came without a sexual relationship ---
2-He did not commit the Koran and the problem is that the Koran also declares that ---
So with Christ completed the law, and also as preached by the prophets of the Jews -
There fore we see Muhammad came and said he was a prophet ---
If Muhammad wanted to believewith him .
he must be better than his deeds of Christ ----
But the actions of Muhammad are known to us from the Koran ----
he mistakes &#8211;or sin -
So mind where he goes in his faith ---
Full or not full of ----
Who did not commit a mistake or sin -
Or who has committed mistakes &#8211;or sin -- I leave the answer to your mind &#8211;

Who was born of a father and mother -
Or which is the word of God ---
Leave you answer
This is simple of my faith &#8211;
I just us my mind to see th result &#8211;
Thank you &#8211;
If you understand me
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
To Farouk -
Thank you ---
I know what I'm saying well ---
Here's the proof ----
--- we read the thoraht this information –
In the thoraht
First of all prophets born of mother and father ---
But Christ was the Word of God ---
Secondly, the mistakes of the prophets of the Jews -
1 - Ibrahim was worshiped God ur Chaldean before come out ---
In other words, he engages with God without knowing him ---
Secondly Ibrahim said his sister, Sarah, and his wife is not in the migration to the Promised Land ---
2 - Moses, the first act of him that he killed the Pharaonic ---
And fled to the land of Madyan ---
Secondly, no one executes the orders of God to him literally and this punishment was that he did not enter the Promised Land

3-David's first work he has done he killed Goliath the Philistine in the battle between the two sides ----
And also what to do from sexual practices ---
4-Suleiman and his deeds of his father due to his violation of orders and many divine in his life ---
And others of the prophets of the Jews -
But with an important advantage ----
All the prophets have declared they are waiting for the Savior who saves the children of Israel and the world and has to be back the kingdom of God -

But the Christ came and lived his life without committing any mistake or sin -
1-He came without a sexual relationship ---
2-He did not commit the Koran and the problem is that the Koran also declares that ---
So with Christ completed the law, and also as preached by the prophets of the Jews -
There fore we see Muhammad came and said he was a prophet ---
If Muhammad wanted to believewith him .
he must be better than his deeds of Christ ----
But the actions of Muhammad are known to us from the Koran ----
he mistakes –or sin -
So mind where he goes in his faith ---
Full or not full of ----
Who did not commit a mistake or sin -
Or who has committed mistakes –or sin -- I leave the answer to your mind –

Who was born of a father and mother -
Or which is the word of God ---
Leave you answer
This is simple of my faith –
I just us my mind to see th result –
Thank you –
If you understand me
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
To faruk
If you understand me Do not depend on only the Koran in the construction of what you believe -
Leave of islamic faith who tells you the word of God and that he came down from heaven ----
Koran in origin Moved from previous books it ---
Sources cake and the Bible and the teachings of pagan Mecca and teachings --- Zoroastrians of Persia -
Torah written before the Koran more than 1500 years ---
Jews kept them ---
Characters did not change them ----
If they want to change Alorah the best way not to write or act to Moses
Or not write what david he did in the battle -
Or deeds of many Solomon rebelled against his father
I let your special mind to work &#8211;
Thank you
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Mahasn my friend
What you know about Islamic Law is nothing but propaganda.
Now i ask you simple question.
You use word "nushuz" but you cannot give me meaning of word.
If you do not know meaning of simple word "nushuz" then how can you understand Islamic Marriage Law.
Please Mahasn you making a fool of yourself.
If you cannot give me answer then i cannot teach you truth.
Peace
Farouk
to faruk --
this verse --and this word < al-nshoze>- [FONT=&quot]Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4:35 [/FONT]
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
to faruk --
Recalcitrance==&#1606;&#1575;&#1588;&#1586; <nashez>
[FONT=&quot]But those [wives] from whom you fear< [/FONT][FONT=&quot]arrogance[/FONT]>
Translation of the word here is[FONT=&quot]arrogance --but this [/FONT] not correct ---
Refer to the Arabic dictionary ---
&#1606;&#1575;&#1588;&#1586; <,nashez> means rebellion ---
So there is also a problem in translation
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
[FONT=&quot]strike them. meaning also beating them --
do womans in westren know this verse --
any free woman love this order from god ????????????????????????


[/FONT]
 

farouk

Active Member
To Farouk -
Thank you ---
I know what I'm saying well ---
Here's the proof ----
--- we read the thoraht this information –
In the thoraht
First of all prophets born of mother and father ---
But Christ was the Word of God ---
Secondly, the mistakes of the prophets of the Jews -
1 - Ibrahim was worshiped God ur Chaldean before come out ---
In other words, he engages with God without knowing him ---
Secondly Ibrahim said his sister, Sarah, and his wife is not in the migration to the Promised Land ---
2 - Moses, the first act of him that he killed the Pharaonic ---
And fled to the land of Madyan ---
Secondly, no one executes the orders of God to him literally and this punishment was that he did not enter the Promised Land

3-David's first work he has done he killed Goliath the Philistine in the battle between the two sides ----
And also what to do from sexual practices ---
4-Suleiman and his deeds of his father due to his violation of orders and many divine in his life ---
And others of the prophets of the Jews -
But with an important advantage ----
All the prophets have declared they are waiting for the Savior who saves the children of Israel and the world and has to be back the kingdom of God -

But the Christ came and lived his life without committing any mistake or sin -
1-He came without a sexual relationship ---
2-He did not commit the Koran and the problem is that the Koran also declares that ---
So with Christ completed the law, and also as preached by the prophets of the Jews -
There fore we see Muhammad came and said he was a prophet ---
If Muhammad wanted to believewith him .
he must be better than his deeds of Christ ----
But the actions of Muhammad are known to us from the Koran ----
he mistakes –or sin -
So mind where he goes in his faith ---
Full or not full of ----
Who did not commit a mistake or sin -
Or who has committed mistakes –or sin -- I leave the answer to your mind –

Who was born of a father and mother -
Or which is the word of God ---
Leave you answer
This is simple of my faith –
I just us my mind to see th result –
Thank you –
If you understand me

Mahasn my friend.
Firstly
The following is the Lords prayer.
"Father, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread; and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive every one who is indebted to us; and lead us not into temptation"
Now this is how Jesus(PBBUH) prayed.
My question.
Do sinless people need to pray?
If you answer yes then explain why sinless people need to pray.

Secondly.
Moses(PBBUH) came with the laws of the Torah.Now if Moses(PBBUH) is sinner and made mistakes as you claim then is it possible that there are mistakes in the Law of the Torah.Remember i said possible.Maybe there is mistake.What you think hee,possible hee.Think carefully before giving me answer or else you make yourself look like a fool.

Thirdly.
The folowing is a verse from your bible.
"Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord"
I have question about Judas the disciple who betray Jesus(PBBUH).Do you think God punish this brat for betraying Jesus(PBBUH).We Muslim believe Jesus(PBBUH) was not put in the cross but Judas take Jesus(PBBUH) place in cross.I think God punish Judas in cross.What is your opinion from Christian point of view.Judas betray Jesus(PBBUH) will Judas go to heaven or maybe he get punished by God as the verse i quoted above.

Finally
Mahasn if you have a daughter in your home that is 14 to 16 years old and one day she run away from home without trace.After one year she comes back home with baby boy.You,as a Christian,come from a very noble and respectable home in your town.You question your daughter regarding the childs father and she tells you its belongs to the Holy Ghost.My question to you is how will you react and how will you answer to your friends gossip?

Note i have much more questions but lets hear your answer for the above first.
Peace
Farouk
 
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