Was God once a Man?

[Guitar's Cry]

You seem to ignore the following part:

Isaiah 46:9

"... I am God, and there is none like me."

This is a contradiction of Mormon teaching. That we will be a god. Because if we are like God, as FHH says, we will be a god. This verse clearly says there is no one like God.

I am Human, and there is none like me.

 

[Polaris]

You seem to ignore the following part:

Isaiah 46:9

"... I am God, and there is none like me."

This is a contradiction of Mormon teaching. That we will be a god. Because if we are like God, as FHH says, we will be a god. This verse clearly says there is no one like God.

There is none like him. No other being created us, no other being can bring about our salvation, no other being are we required to worship. There is indeed none like him.

 

[JayHawes]

are we done here?

 

[doppelganger]

are we done here?

Yes. God is a manifestation of human symbolic power. As a symbol "he" was once human.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

God is formlesss and genderless, it has no body, therefore it can't be anything.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

God is formlesss and genderless, it has no body, therefore it can't be anything. But within that, god is everything

 

[doppelganger]

But within that, god is everything

That, too, is a form.:yes:

 

[Don Penguinoini]

That, too, is a form.:yes:

True, it's almost impossible to put god in words because it has no characteristics, it is a true mystery, all we know that it is omnipresent, omnipotent and all the other omni's

 

[Katzpur]

True, it's almost impossible to put god in words because it has no characteristics, it is a true mystery, all we know that it is omnipresent, omnipotent and all the other omni's

Don't state your opinion as if it were fact. The nature of God may be "a true mystery" to you, but it certainly isn't to me.

 

[jonny]

True, it's almost impossible to put god in words because it has no characteristics, it is a true mystery, all we know that it is omnipresent, omnipotent and all the other omni's

One of my favorite quotes from Joseph Smith:

If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.

 

[Quiddity]

Don't state your opinion as if it were fact. The nature of God may be "a true mystery" to you, but it certainly isn't to me.

You know, that seems to be the ideal cliché in many things we disagree with Katz. We say it’s a mystery and LDS has an answer for it. I find that interesting for a couple reasons that would probably lead this thread off topic.

 

[jonny]

You know, that seems to be the ideal cliché in many things we disagree with Katz. We say it’s a mystery and LDS has an answer for it. I find that interesting for a couple reasons that would probably lead this thread off topic.

One could argue that is the reason that Mormonism exists. Joseph Smith was looking for answers in the current churches and didn't find them. Joseph Smith, through revelation or his imagination, answered these unanwerable questions. Those who believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet obviously believe that they were answered through revelation - with the promise that anyone can know the mysteries of God if they keep the commandments and ask God.

It helps that Joseph Smith believed that he had a direct line of revelation from God and was supported by his followers. He could answer these questions and the answers were accepted and believed as doctrine. Other Christian leaders can not because (in my opinion) they have limited themselves to past revelation and reject the idea of ongoing revelation. The doctrine, in their mind, has already been fully established. Any lingering questions are "mysteries."

 

[Quiddity]

One could argue that is the reason that Mormonism exists.

I was thinking the same thing, but not necessarily for the same reasons you noted.

Joseph Smith was looking for answers in the current churches and didn't find them. Joseph Smith, through revelation or his imagination, answered these unanwerable questions. Those who believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet obviously believe that they were answered through revelation - with the promise that anyone can know the mysteries of God if they keep the commandments and ask God.

Apparently not anyone before Joseph Smith.

It helps that Joseph Smith believed that he had a direct line of revelation from God and was supported by his followers. He could answer these questions and the answers were accepted and believed as doctrine. Other Christian leaders can not because (in my opinion) they have limited themselves to past revelation and reject the idea of ongoing revelation. The doctrine, in their mind, has already been fully established. Any lingering questions are "mysteries."

We have answers too Jonny. We just don't begin to have doubts if we anyone can't explain what the Father is made of and things of that sort. Do people care if that remains mysterious? Some do and some don't.

 

[jonny]

We have answers too Jonny. We just don't begin to have doubts if we anyone can't explain what the Father is made of and things of that sort. Do people care if that remains mysterious? Some do and some don't.

I don't mean to say that you don't have answers. I just meant to say that Mormonism answers many questions, specifically about our purpose in this life and potential in the next life, that are not answered fully in other Christian religions. From my perspective you can't understand your purpose or potential if you don't understand the character of God.

 

[Katzpur]

We have answers too Jonny.

You have answers, too, and we have mysteries, too.

We just don't begin to have doubts if we can't explain what the Father is made of and things of that sort. Do people care if that remains mysterious? Some do and some don't.

And we don't begin to have doubts if we can't explain who God's Father is. Like you, most of us are willing to set certain unanswered questions aside and focus on those things we believe are important to know.

 

[wizanda]

If God is beyond the last dimension, to contain reality, what would be if God was here?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Don't state your opinion as if it were fact. The nature of God may be "a true mystery" to you, but it certainly isn't to me.

Well sorry, you know i didn't meant it like that.:no:

 

[Don Penguinoini]

You know, that seems to be the ideal cliché in many things we disagree with Katz. We say it’s a mystery and LDS has an answer for it. I find that interesting for a couple reasons that would probably lead this thread off topic.

Thanks Vicotor, funilly enough i always spot that too. Maybe they really do have the answers, but i really do doubt that.

 

[jonny]

Thanks Vicotor, funilly enough i always spot that too. Maybe they really do have the answers, but i really do doubt that.

You mean that we have the answers, but you don't believe them.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

No-one has the answers, with all respect, where does Mormonism get it from? If old old religions lke Hinudism dont have the answers to all the questions, i doubt Mormonism does.