Yes, that alpha meant -less. It is the exact equivalent of the English suffix -less. So god-less.
Being godless does not imply the non-existence of a deity. It can imply that my life is autonomous from deities (whether they exist or not).
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Various kinds of Atheism
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Being godless does not imply the non-existence of a deity. It can imply that my life is autonomous from deities (whether they exist or not).
Augustus
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That would be most illogical for numerous reasons, but each to their own.
Unveiled Artist
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It's okay. It's just a pet peeve. It's probably because people don't want to be put in a box. Take christians-now there is spiritual and not religious and non-denomination.
Boxes don't define us, but I'm not sure why one can't be in one for sake of conversation.
You think that all "kinds of atheism" are concerned with God-with-a-capital-G?Various kinds of Atheism
I had to post this in the 'General Religious' debates section because this debate is intended for anybody to respond to.
A thread about various churches within Christianity has led on to this question.
I cannot think of many kinds of Atheism myself, but here is my short list.
Please do add to the list, argue about it, deny bits of it....... as you please.
Religious Atheism (Henotheism. Christianity. etc )
Implicit Atheism (I don't see how God could be real)
Direct Atheism (There is no God!)
Religion Mythers (God and everything in the bible etc is myth!)
Deism (God is unaware and uninvolved, so there is no Theistic God)
Agnosticism (I don't believe in God but am open minded)
Apatheism (I don't actually care about God, one way or t'other)
Ignosticism/Igtheism. (I don't accept any ideas or definitions about God.
Over to you all.......
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Ha! You haven't read some of the rants that atheists have chucked my way. They've even insisted that I'm a Theist! *spits n grumbles*
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Haven't got a clue. That's why I posted up this thread ...You think that all "kinds of atheism" are concerned with God-with-a-capital-G?
But I have learned that apatheism is fairly careless or unconcerned about the issue .
Offer to get a round in... It cures all ills
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
What?
The visitor has to fork out around for a bunch of ......... ummmm...... Yeah... OK.
I might have to wait until a few need to go to the bathroom/loo.
Augustus
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For those who hold an apophatic view of god:
"Mauthner admired Meister Eckhart, a fourteenth-century Christian mystic who died in obscure circumstances after being subjected to trial by the Inquisition, as a true atheist, since Eckhart insisted that nothing could be said of God – not even that God existed." The silence of animals, John Gray
It has been offered that all we can know of God is the Messenger.
Most will see them as a man like us.
Regards Tony
Heyo
Veteran Member
That's right and that makes deists a-theists (at least in the literal sense).
Heyo
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It's more like you can't be without something you don't what that something is you're without.
It's not just that gods aren't real, don't have objective existence.
It's also that there's no coherent concept of what a real god would be, hence no test that will tell us whether any real suspect is God (or a god). or not.
Nor is there a coherent concept of "godness", the objective quality a real god would have and a real superscientist would lack.
The unicorn has neither of these problems.
"Beauty" is an aesthetic judgment we make, varying according to culture, and mixing sexual attraction, the appeal of utility, and symbols and scenes and aspects taken to be positive and thus appealing in themselves. Or something like that. For instance, we don't know why our cave-dwelling ancestors painted animals on the walls, but our guesses include sympathetic magic to generate good luck at hunting, or the celebration of a successful hunt, or religious observation or appeasement, or just for the hell of it, primal graffiti.Blimey!
Does that include natural beauty?
Ah....no, that does exist.... Just looked in the mirror.
Maybe @blü 2 can explain it better than a Deist can.
And we don't find sunsets as such being the widely admired and appreciated phenomena that they are today in the West until the 18th century, along with the rise of Romanticism.
For the aesthetics of sexual attraction, I'd recommend Jared Diamond's Why is Sex Fun? as a good place to start.
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Nor is there a coherent concept of objective reality as independent of the mind.
Then on what basis are you posting here? Do you think this is all a dream of yours?
Having the right to believe, is not the same as being correct. An example would be person saying, "I believe that according to science, I'm biologically, I am a plant." Here, that person has the right to believe that his statement is true and nobody should stop him from believing that, but scientifically, he is wrong. So context is important when someone makes a statement or addressed someone else's statement.