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UFO mystery solved
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exchemist
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Ball lightning is rare, but has been reported often enough to be recognised as a phenomenon, though it has not been seen often enough to have been analysed scientifically. I have seen it myself, once, in the tank farm of a lubricating oil plant during a thunderstorm.
But it seems always to occur at or close to ground level, or close to objects connected to the ground, so I don't see how it can help explained Unidentifed Flying Objects.
We had what we assume is a ball lightning event in our office some years ago.
Although the alarm detected no movement a bright ball was seen on IR video, it rolled along a ceiling beam hanging from it and encountered a cable conduit leading down to a desk. It rolled down the conduit to the desk then off the desk out of sight of the camera but the glow could be seen. It abruptly disappeared when (i assume) it made contact with the floor?
Unfortunately when we sold the company all backup drives were sold with it so i have no vid to show?
joe1776
Well-Known Member
I have lived in Montgomery County in Maryland, a suburban area north of Washington D.C. most of my life. I've seen two UFOs (in different years) close enough that I could have hit them with a baseball. Both times they flew soundlessly, barely above tree top level, at maybe 10-15 mph. They were disc-shaped craft about 40 feet in diameter. A glowing white light at the perimeter seemed to move around the craft like a theater marquee. I'm guessing this was the visible effect of their power source. On one sighting, I felt something on my face like the flutter of wind which I assume radiated from their power source.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
It's a big, old universe. Why do we think other life forms can't have awesome rides?
asserting one mystery to explain another...sure, some cases might be ball lightning, but it would be a very small fraction.
I'm pretty sure it was Tinkerbell, who was hired by a competing company to sneak into your office to see what she could find for them...
It seems odd that there are thousands of kinds of ship sighted, yet there is no contact every made.
Also, should we assume that they all exceeded the speed of light to get here? If not, they are perhaps billions of years away from home, with no hope of ever seeing their loved ones again.
Seems like a lot of the sightings I've heard about match ball lightening rather well.
Apparently there are dozens of possible explanations for it. Perhaps most of these are actual, and there dozens of kinds of ball lightening, each having its own categories of manifestation. This would account for the many kinds of UFO sightings.
There are videos of it high in the sky.
Yes, it can have weird movements like a lot of UFO sightings do.
Yes, ball lightening could do this.
Yes, ball lightening can have different shapes with unusual patterns around the edge.
And people have felt this kind of thing with ball lightening.
Probably took the hard drives too.
Howard Is
Lucky Mud
A saucer-shaped craft flew directly over me when I was a boy.
Absolutely unambiguous.
I called my sister who came outside to see what I was excited about, and she went white and very quiet.
I don’t know if it was extraterrestrial or military, but it was 100% real.
A similar craft landed near a school in Melbourne some years later. It was observed at close range by hundreds of people, including teachers from the school. Some of the kids went to have a closer look. At least one of them never recovered psychologically.
The craft left marks in the grassy field where it landed. The army came next morning and mowed the field to remove the evidence. This is a verifiable true story.
Tere are many things that give the illusion of being UFOs, but some sightings are legitimate, and not east to explain such as: Yep, those are UFOs, Navy says about 3 videos of strange sightings
Navy confirms videos did capture UFO sightings, but it calls them by another name
The U.S. Navy doesn't know exactly what the "unidentified aerial phenomena" seen in the videos are.
Watch: Navy confirms this footage shows 'unidentified aerial phenomena'
SEPT. 19, 201902:18
Sept. 19, 2019, 1:56 AM EDT / Updated Sept. 19, 2019, 4:48 AM EDT
By Mosheh Gains and Phil Helsel
Three videos posted online that have been described as being related to UFO sightings do indeed include footage of “unidentified aerial phenomena,” a U.S. Navy spokesman confirmed.
But as for specifics, spokesman Joseph Gradisher said the Navy doesn't know exactly what the objects are.
"The three videos (one from 2004 and two from 2015) show incursions into our military training ranges by unidentified aerial phenomena," Gradisher told NBC News in an emailed statement.
"The Navy has characterized the observed phenomena as unidentified," he said.
To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, a group dedicated to pursuing research into UFOs and extraterrestrial life that was co-founded by rocker Tom DeLonge of Blink 182, helped bring attention to the videos. The three videos were posted by TTSA and The New York Times in December 2017 and March 2018, NBC New York reported.
The website The Black Vault last week first reported the Navy's "unidentified aerial phenomena" designation and said the three videos are commonly known as "FLIR1," "Gimbal" and "GoFast."
The video called FLIR1 shows an oblong-shaped object, which accelerates out of view from sensors. The group says that video is from 2004 and the "2004 Nimitz incident."
Gradisher did not name the videos in his emails, but said the video from the 2004 sighting is from an aircraft from the carrier USS Nimitz.
In the video called Gimbal, a crew member is heard saying "look at that thing" about an object that they said appeared to be going against the wind. One says they believed it was a drone.
The video called Go Fast, which the group says is from 2015, shows an object that appears to be over water and crews are heard asking "what the f--- is that?" and "what is that, man?"
To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science says online that U.S. military videos of “unidentified aerial phenomenon" have been through the declassification review process and approved for public release.
Gradisher disputed those assertions. He said the video from 2004 from the Nimitz was widely shared throughout the ship at the time and was posted online by a crew member in 2007. The online post came to the attention of Navy officials in 2009, but officials decided not to pursue the matter because of the time that had elapsed and the size of the crew at the time, which was around 5,000, he said.
The Navy "has no information" on how the other two videos were released into general circulation, Gradisher said. “These videos are copies of official Navy footage taken by Naval personnel conducting training missions in controlled military airspace," he said.
U.S. Navy is revising rules to encourage pilots to report unusual sightings
The New York Times reported in 2017 that the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program for years investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, but that the Defense Department said that program was shut down in 2012. What was described as a shadowy program was reported to have begun in 2007.
Gradisher said in emails that the larger issue about the three videos is what he called an increase “in the number of military training range incursions by unidentified aerial [phenomena],” and he said all such sightings are investigated.
"Any incursion into our training ranges by any aircraft or phenomena, identified or not identified, is problematic from both a safety and security concern," he said.
While the objects in the three videos in question are designated as unknown, Gradisher said that as inexpensive unmanned aerial systems — commonly called drones — become more prevalent, "sightings of this nature have increased in frequency."
While popular culture may refer to unexplained objects as UFOs, the phrase “unidentified aerial phenomena” was borrowed from the United Kingdom and describes “any aerial phenomenon that cannot immediately be identified," Gradisher said.
Seth Shostak, senior astronomer and institute fellow at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California, said in an email Wednesday night that all that the Navy did with its confirmation of the videos and the “unidentified aerial phenomena” was confirm that the videos were authentic.
“The videos weren’t really being questioned. What IS being asked is ‘what the heck are these things?’” Shostak, a regular contributor to NBC News MACH, said in an email. “Now I think if the answer were easy, that would be known by now. But when I look at these things I see no reason to consider them good evidence for ‘alien visitation,’ which is what the public likes to think they are.”
He said that in some reported sightings of unidentified flying objects other explanations, like birds, seem plausible.
Navy confirms videos did capture UFO sightings, but it calls them by another name
The U.S. Navy doesn't know exactly what the "unidentified aerial phenomena" seen in the videos are.
Watch: Navy confirms this footage shows 'unidentified aerial phenomena'
SEPT. 19, 201902:18
Sept. 19, 2019, 1:56 AM EDT / Updated Sept. 19, 2019, 4:48 AM EDT
By Mosheh Gains and Phil Helsel
Three videos posted online that have been described as being related to UFO sightings do indeed include footage of “unidentified aerial phenomena,” a U.S. Navy spokesman confirmed.
But as for specifics, spokesman Joseph Gradisher said the Navy doesn't know exactly what the objects are.
"The three videos (one from 2004 and two from 2015) show incursions into our military training ranges by unidentified aerial phenomena," Gradisher told NBC News in an emailed statement.
"The Navy has characterized the observed phenomena as unidentified," he said.
To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, a group dedicated to pursuing research into UFOs and extraterrestrial life that was co-founded by rocker Tom DeLonge of Blink 182, helped bring attention to the videos. The three videos were posted by TTSA and The New York Times in December 2017 and March 2018, NBC New York reported.
The website The Black Vault last week first reported the Navy's "unidentified aerial phenomena" designation and said the three videos are commonly known as "FLIR1," "Gimbal" and "GoFast."
The video called FLIR1 shows an oblong-shaped object, which accelerates out of view from sensors. The group says that video is from 2004 and the "2004 Nimitz incident."
Gradisher did not name the videos in his emails, but said the video from the 2004 sighting is from an aircraft from the carrier USS Nimitz.
In the video called Gimbal, a crew member is heard saying "look at that thing" about an object that they said appeared to be going against the wind. One says they believed it was a drone.
The video called Go Fast, which the group says is from 2015, shows an object that appears to be over water and crews are heard asking "what the f--- is that?" and "what is that, man?"
To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science says online that U.S. military videos of “unidentified aerial phenomenon" have been through the declassification review process and approved for public release.
Gradisher disputed those assertions. He said the video from 2004 from the Nimitz was widely shared throughout the ship at the time and was posted online by a crew member in 2007. The online post came to the attention of Navy officials in 2009, but officials decided not to pursue the matter because of the time that had elapsed and the size of the crew at the time, which was around 5,000, he said.
The Navy "has no information" on how the other two videos were released into general circulation, Gradisher said. “These videos are copies of official Navy footage taken by Naval personnel conducting training missions in controlled military airspace," he said.
U.S. Navy is revising rules to encourage pilots to report unusual sightings
The New York Times reported in 2017 that the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program for years investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, but that the Defense Department said that program was shut down in 2012. What was described as a shadowy program was reported to have begun in 2007.
Gradisher said in emails that the larger issue about the three videos is what he called an increase “in the number of military training range incursions by unidentified aerial [phenomena],” and he said all such sightings are investigated.
"Any incursion into our training ranges by any aircraft or phenomena, identified or not identified, is problematic from both a safety and security concern," he said.
While the objects in the three videos in question are designated as unknown, Gradisher said that as inexpensive unmanned aerial systems — commonly called drones — become more prevalent, "sightings of this nature have increased in frequency."
While popular culture may refer to unexplained objects as UFOs, the phrase “unidentified aerial phenomena” was borrowed from the United Kingdom and describes “any aerial phenomenon that cannot immediately be identified," Gradisher said.
Seth Shostak, senior astronomer and institute fellow at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California, said in an email Wednesday night that all that the Navy did with its confirmation of the videos and the “unidentified aerial phenomena” was confirm that the videos were authentic.
“The videos weren’t really being questioned. What IS being asked is ‘what the heck are these things?’” Shostak, a regular contributor to NBC News MACH, said in an email. “Now I think if the answer were easy, that would be known by now. But when I look at these things I see no reason to consider them good evidence for ‘alien visitation,’ which is what the public likes to think they are.”
He said that in some reported sightings of unidentified flying objects other explanations, like birds, seem plausible.
Maybe it was a military craft, top secret in development, or something like that? Accidentally spotted because of an unplanned and unintended landing?
Are you saying a psychologically normal person became permanently psychologically disturbed? What could this UFO possibly be doing that affects peoples' brains like that?