Trump's Mode of Operation

[sealchan]

I think that it is becoming quite clear at this point that Trump has not colluded with foreign nations, but is always looking to bolster his personal image and power with those whom he thinks he has something that they want. He isn't in anyone's pocket but he is not above using other nations to help himself politically, dishonestly. That he is using the Ukraine to get at his greatest political opponent in the next election shows that he isn't simply doing Putin's bidding but taking advantage of a particular situation without specifically concerning himself with how Putin might see it.

He juxtaposes his recently delayed "give" with a "want" without explicitly connecting the two in the tried and true fashion of someone who does not want to appear to be negotiating but to be in the position of power and of indicating an important requirement for the recipient to remain in his "favor". All of this is through a well-practiced, well-worn polite demeanor which any sort of self-reflection would reveal is a confident sort of gloating.

It is Trump's deep, deep narcissism which misdirects us as to his active involvement with collusion and it is his life-long practiced balanced approach of using innuendo that allows him to manipulate and to cross boundaries established in governmental ethics that few people in such a position have dared to cross for shame. Trump has mastered his sense of shame with his deep fantasies of conspiracy.

IMO of course...

 

[BSM1]

I think that it is becoming quite clear at this point that Trump has not colluded with foreign nations, but is always looking to bolster his personal image and power with those whom he thinks he has something that they want. He isn't in anyone's pocket but he is not above using other nations to help himself politically, dishonestly. That he is using the Ukraine to get at his greatest political opponent in the next election shows that he isn't simply doing Putin's bidding but taking advantage of a particular situation without specifically concerning himself with how Putin might see it.

He juxtaposes his recently delayed "give" with a "want" without explicitly connecting the two in the tried and true fashion of someone who does not want to appear to be negotiating but to be in the position of power and of indicating an important requirement for the recipient to remain in his "favor". All of this is through a well-practiced, well-worn polite demeanor which any sort of self-reflection would reveal is a confident sort of gloating.

It is Trump's deep, deep narcissism which misdirects us as to his active involvement with collusion and it is his life-long practiced balanced approach of using innuendo that allows him to manipulate and to cross boundaries established in governmental ethics that few people in such a position have dared to cross for shame. Trump has mastered his sense of shame with his deep fantasies of conspiracy.

IMO of course...

And yet...he's still the President. Go figure (that's gotta sting).

 

[tytlyf]

It's obvious he and his campaign colluded with Russia. Now it's obvious Trump and his associates are colluding with Ukraine for political gain.

 

[sealchan]

And yet...he's still the President. Go figure (that's gotta sting).

It most certainly does sting. It was like a gut punch to the stomach for me when he was declared the winner of the election.

 

[sealchan]

It's obvious he and his campaign colluded with Russia. Now it's obvious Trump and his associates are colluding with Ukraine for political gain.

Attempting to...but no level of ongoing collaboration can be established, so in my understanding, not quite. We know from the Mueller report and other statements that the President has made that he makes no apologies for his efforts either. His method of interaction is to juxtapose, in the context of a "delay", a strong and repeated request for something. This is the practiced quid pro quo of someone who has, in the past, operated under rules of conduct that require that he obfuscate his requirements in negotiations because those requirements lie outside some sort of expected standard for rational negotiation.

 

[tytlyf]

It most certainly does sting. It was like a gut punch to the stomach for me when he was declared the winner of the election.

When he won, patriots were very worried. You don't put someone like Trump in a position like the presidency. Failed businessman, fraudulent and corrupt organizations, bankruptcies, narcissist, mind of a child, etc.
This is exactly why people warned against Trump before the election. At least those of us who knew the real Donald Trump for decades.

Here are some of Trump’s noteworthy business failures.

1. Trump Airlines
2. Trump beverages
3. Trump: The Game
4. Trump casinos
5. Trump magazine
6. Trump Mortgage
7. Trump Steaks
8. Trump’s travel site
9. Trump’s comms company
10. Trump Tower Tampa
11. Trump University
12. Trump Vodka
13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
*14. Trump President

Donald Trump's 13 Biggest Business Failures

 

[tytlyf]

Attempting to...but no level of ongoing collaboration can be established, so in my understanding, not quite. We know from the Mueller report and other statements that the President has made that he makes no apologies for his efforts either. His method of interaction is to juxtapose, in the context of a "delay", a strong and repeated request for something. This is the practiced quid pro quo of someone who has, in the past, operated under rules of conduct that require that he obfuscate his requirements in negotiations because those requirements lie outside some sort of expected standard for rational negotiation.

You're mixing words.
Trump and his campaign were cleared of Conspiracy against the United States. A serious Crime. There was evidence, just not enough to convict.
Colluding means something completely different than Conspiracy. The FBI didn't look into colluding because it's not a legal term.

Colluding =/= Conspiracy against the United States.

collude

1. cooperate in a secret or unlawful way in order to deceive or gain an advantage over others.

 

[exchemist]

And yet...he's still the President. Go figure (that's gotta sting).

I figure that makes a lot of American voters rather stupid, or at least easily duped.

 

[tytlyf]

I figure that makes a lot of American voters rather stupid, or at least easily duped.

Both. And the dumber we get the more America declines. Scientific studies prove you right.

 

[Twilight Hue]

When he won, patriots were very worried. You don't put someone like Trump in a position like the presidency. Failed businessman, fraudulent and corrupt organizations, bankruptcies, narcissist, mind of a child, etc.
This is exactly why people warned against Trump before the election. At least those of us who knew the real Donald Trump for decades.

Here are some of Trump’s noteworthy business failures.

1. Trump Airlines
2. Trump beverages
3. Trump: The Game
4. Trump casinos
5. Trump magazine
6. Trump Mortgage
7. Trump Steaks
8. Trump’s travel site
9. Trump’s comms company
10. Trump Tower Tampa
11. Trump University
12. Trump Vodka
13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
*14. Trump President

Donald Trump's 13 Biggest Business Failures

Donald Trump's Success Story

 

[tytlyf]

Donald Trump's Success Story

His failures far outweigh his successes. If Trump was worth what he claims, he wouldn't have a problem showing it off to the world.

Guaranteed he's eyeballs deep in debt. Did you factor that into your success story and worth?

 

[exchemist]

Both. And the dumber we get the more America declines. Scientific studies prove you right.

I was being a bit flippant, in reply to a flippant post.

But I'm an optimist. I suspect a lot of people will have learnt from the last four years. We are all learning how to cope with information provided in a different way, in the internet era. I suspect the US public may be wiseing up, as the old die off and the young start to get the vote and some of the lies come back to bite their inventors.

But I need to be an optimist: in Britain, we are just entering the long dark tunnel of the Trump era, now that Bozo, our mendacious buffoon of a PM, has gone the full Trump in his methods. Both the judiciary and the legislature are being attacked, by our own government, who claim their mission is to restore the supremacy of.......our judiciary and our legislature.

You couldn't make it up - unless you'd already seen the movie, across the Atlantic.

 

[tytlyf]

I was being a bit flippant, in reply to a flippant post.

But I'm an optimist. I suspect a lot of people will have learnt from the last four years. We are all learning how to cope with information provided in a different way, in the internet era. I suspect the US public may be wiseing up, as the old die off and the young start to get the vote and some of the lies come back to bite their inventors.

But I need to be an optimist: in Britain, we are just entering the long dark tunnel of the Trump era, now that Bozo, our mendacious buffoon of a PM, has gone the full Trump in his methods. Both the judiciary and the legislature are being attacked, by our own government, who claim their mission is to restore the supremacy of.......our judiciary and our legislature.

You couldn't make it up - unless you'd already seen the movie, across the Atlantic.

There really isn't fixing the die hard far-right cult. Their selections of which media to take the information from is truly the problem with this all.
Their media has psychological profiles on 'heartland' Americans and knows how to manipulate their minds. Conservatives are known to be more fearful and paranoid due to brain chemistry. The republican elitists know this and exploit if for their elitist gain.

Everything is a conspiracy theory, everything is the end of the world, everything is democrats fault. The low information voter believes it because the propaganda is worded in such a way that makes it convincing.

There is no fixing poor genes. These people are born this way.

 

[BSM1]

It most certainly does sting. It was like a gut punch to the stomach for me when he was declared the winner of the election.

You're welcome....

 

[BSM1]

I figure that makes a lot of American voters rather stupid, or at least easily duped.

And yet....the smartest woman in politics couldn't see it. That must sting...

 

[tytlyf]

And yet....the smartest woman in politics couldn't see it. That must sting...

You think Hillary was the smartest woman in politics? Interesting...

 

[shmogie]

I think that it is becoming quite clear at this point that Trump has not colluded with foreign nations, but is always looking to bolster his personal image and power with those whom he thinks he has something that they want. He isn't in anyone's pocket but he is not above using other nations to help himself politically, dishonestly. That he is using the Ukraine to get at his greatest political opponent in the next election shows that he isn't simply doing Putin's bidding but taking advantage of a particular situation without specifically concerning himself with how Putin might see it.

He juxtaposes his recently delayed "give" with a "want" without explicitly connecting the two in the tried and true fashion of someone who does not want to appear to be negotiating but to be in the position of power and of indicating an important requirement for the recipient to remain in his "favor". All of this is through a well-practiced, well-worn polite demeanor which any sort of self-reflection would reveal is a confident sort of gloating.

It is Trump's deep, deep narcissism which misdirects us as to his active involvement with collusion and it is his life-long practiced balanced approach of using innuendo that allows him to manipulate and to cross boundaries established in governmental ethics that few people in such a position have dared to cross for shame. Trump has mastered his sense of shame with his deep fantasies of conspiracy.

IMO of course...

Nonsense. You are right in saying Trump is totally egocentric, but so what ? Many Presidents I am sure have been the same, they just haven´t been stupid enough to display it.

I am not sure you understand what playing political hardball is, but manipulation based upon power is part of it.

Liberals are always chasing their shiny balls that they think
Trump has rolled in their direction, but they never seem to catch them.

One after another seems to disappear just as they grab for it. Schiff said he had massive amounts of evidence on Trump, that never was shown. The Mueller report, just wait for it, it will prove collusion with Russia, and worse, whoops, thatś gone .

Now a phone call, where Trump doesn"t even bring up Biden or weapons for Ukraine, the President of Ukraine does, and Trump asks him to look into Biden and his son and their apparent personal enrichment using the VPś office, an investigation Biden stopped by playing hardball.

The President has no right to ask about possible illegal behavior of an American citizen ?

The democrats have their own shiny ball they roll for their adherents, impeachment.

They never do it, just talk about it, like kids do the tooth fairy, they have been talking about it since the inauguration. They must be very poor investigators if they haven´t put a case together in almost three years, they never will.

As a Republican I demand the Impeachment of Trump, right now. I want to see articles of impeachment right now.

It isn´t going to happen, and even if it does, Trump won´t be removed from office.

Shiny balls rolling every where for the democrats, the clown show continues, yet meaningful legislation is unimportant to the clowns.

 

[LuisDantas]

It most certainly does sting. It was like a gut punch to the stomach for me when he was declared the winner of the election.

I hear you.

Even if he has not colluded (big fat if, and perhaps one that a careful reading of the Mueller report would clarify decisively) it is clearly not for lack of trying.

In any case, that is hardly decisive at this point. There is no shortage of good reasons to impeach his as... tounding presence away.

 

[shmogie]

It's obvious he and his campaign colluded with Russia. Now it's obvious Trump and his associates are colluding with Ukraine for political gain.

Obvious ? are you hallucinating ? All you need is evidence, real evidence, fact. That which comes from dreams doesn´t count.

Now, there has been manipulating of Ukraine for gain, by the executive branch. The vice President withholding approved taxpayer money to Ukraine, till the person investigating the VPś son is fired and the investigation stops.

Quid pro quo, this, for that. In this case it represents extortion for personal gain.

At law a confession is considered the best evidence, the VP proudly boasted of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine.

Find a statement of quid pro quo that represents personal gain in some fashion for Trump.

 

[BSM1]

You think Hillary was the smartest woman in politics? Interesting...

Self-proclaimed by her handlers....