ecco
Veteran Member
Because we don't make enough at reasonable prices to supply our own needs.
Because Americans like to buy big SUV's instead of small Cruzes.
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Trump supporters getting a taste of that "maga" magic.
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Because Americans like to buy big SUV's instead of small Cruzes.
I think this is a good time for the U.S. to consider becoming the fourth Canadian territory.It seems pointless and counterintuitive to me. The only reason for importing anything is if we don't have enough of it here. The only reason for exporting is if we have an excess of something.
It may be a good idea to have back ups, but if the issue is free trade between Canada and the U.S., why not just unify and form a single country? Then it would be no different than commerce and trade within a country.
Besides, if Trump is as bad as everyone is saying (just like Hitler), then the Anschluss between the U.S. and Canada is coming anyway. Be ready for it.
There is a form you need to fill out, but you can do it online.
ecco
Veteran Member
Americans do not pick crops. In part this is due to low wages and poor working conditions for pickers. But if we raise the wages and improve the working conditions, stores will have to pay substantially more for domestic fruits and vegetables. That will cause more demand for imported fruits and vegetables. And then Trump will impose more tariffs on fruits and vegetables. And on and on it goes.
ecco
Veteran Member
You are a manufacturer of golf carts.
You can buy steel from Pennsylvania for $1000/metric ton.
You can buy steel from China for $800/metric ton.
As a good businessman, what would you do?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
By chance, what are yours? Have you even ever taken an economics course?
BTW, even some Republican-oriented economists are upset with him over this.
tytlyf
Not Religious
That's hogwash and not credible. Why do you take the word of a far-right random website blog on the internet? Did you see the description of the website? I can find some no-name random website on the intranetz too. I just don't rely on them as truth.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Again. please follow, I am not the one making outlandish comments in a public setting without knowing a) what I am talking about or b) no discernible credentials that would deemed me knowledgeable about the subject so broached.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Perhaps I should've been more specific. I was hoping for something with actual credibility. Something objective like an academic or scientific journal. Perhaps a link to the actual study itself. You know, something that's not garbage.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I'm sorry that I don't fit some silly, back and white, two dimensional stereotype in your head. Politics are more complex than simple labels, and I can't be sized up like that.
When it comes to Trump, it's not simply "left vs. right", but an actual matter of ethics and competency, things that shouldn't be partisan issues.
Only complete buffoons would be blindly loyal to a politician or party just because they share their political leanings, especially after that politician/party turns out to be a disastrous dumpster fire.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If he was saying positive things about Trump and the tariffs, you would be nodding your head in agreement rather than complaining that he should have a degree in economics.
What are your degrees? I want to know so I can determine which posts of yours are worthless and should be ignored.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
Well, I guess the Virginia Research Institute is some random right wing blog with no credibility as well:
Liberal or conservative? Brain responses to disgusting images help reveal political leanings | research.vtc.vt.edu
The Washington Post with it's left centre bias:
Your brain’s response to a gross photo can reveal your political leanings - The Washington Post
Washington Post - Media Bias/Fact Check
The L.A. Times:
Liberal or conservative? Brain's 'disgust' reaction holds the answer
You asked for a link and I provided it (all easily found), it's not my fault you fit the mold in this specific case with your specific quote so don't get all butt hurt over it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Okay, I just read both the VTC and WP articles, and neither suggested that liberals have a "feces fixation". If anything, they suggested that conservatives are fearful, squeamish pussies.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I would suggest another approach, namely the man has an opinion so why not show where he's wrong?
tytlyf
Not Religious
Interesting that none of those links say the left is the 'party of poop.'
Stanyon
WWMRD?
If you remember correctly I said some liberals and you got defensive, as far as the rest that is the conclusion that I disagreed with and provided two very clear examples as to why that conclusion is flawed.
You are the one that first spoke of someone defecating in someones mouth and just as a side note you did use foul language and that is another sign that the original source was correct in your particular case:
"Leftists are more likely than conservatives to rely on obscenities"
Source:
Science may explain why the Left is the "party of poop" - Bookworm Room
ecco
Veteran Member
The studies also found that most Conservatives suffer from xenophobia.
The Republicans are indeed the party of fear and use it to promote their agendas. They are also excellent at coming up with catch-phrases to instill these fears into the sheeples.
Weak on Defense
Soft on Crime
Anti God
Sorry if it came across that way, but I wasn't speaking of you personally. I was just speaking generally.
I see more about principles rather than personalities. I think blindly opposing someone just because one doesn't like their personality is just as bad, if not worse. I've always been against free trade, ever since the Republicans started foisting that lemon upon America back in the 1980s.
That the Democrats went along with it is a wanton betrayal of one of the core principles of the Democratic Party.
I get the feeling that if Trump said "2+2=4," his opponents would disagree just because Trump said it. That's how many of them come across these days.
Then I guess they shouldn't have closed all those steel mills and turned an entire section of the country into what is commonly known as the Rust Belt. Then we'd make enough domestically to meet the demand. That was a choice we made, as a country, and it was a misguided choice.
We now have the chance to make better choices.
Obviously, businesses will choose the lower price, but that's the whole reason for imposing tariffs, in order to equalize and balance trade.
On the other hand, the steel manufacturers in Pennsylvania could lower their prices to compete better, although they wouldn't necessarily have to pay their workers less. (Although even if they did, there's a solution for that, too.)
There are many members of my extended family (all Americans) who would disagree with you on this point.
And whose fault is that?
Price controls are the answer. It's not because the workers earn too much, it's because the owners demand too much. The wealthiest 1% take too much money, and that's where the focus should be. Force them to lower their prices and raise wages for their workers, and things would get much, much better - almost overnight.