OK mate I see where this may lead to, but can we first agree to provide valid biblical arguments?
personality, persona, person, you name the rest, English is not my native and there is no point to debate about grammar since this may distract from the essence, right?
This is not about grammar, mate, this is about the definition of the words used. ‘Personality’, ‘persona’, ‘person’ and what have you, all carry a different meaning. When you said ‘Father and the son as separate persons’, then, you are talking of 2 distinct persons, NOT 1 person with 2 personalities.
I did said "separate persons", by that In essence I mean
the Father IS NOT the Son IS NOT Holly ghost, simple English.
Now here is my biblical argument for the underlined text above, underlined:
John 20:21-22 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me [Jesus], I am sending you.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
Yes, but John 20:21-23 is also telling you God and Jesus are NOT one and the same being – the sender cannot be the one he is sending!
Next Jesus explicitly states that he must go away in order for holly ghost to be
sent by him, therefore they are mutually exclusive because otherwise Jesus could fill the role of holly ghost for the same result:
John 16:7
But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
Jesus did not send the advocate/comforter/helper, Jesus, in saying he will send the advocate is the same as the Vice President in conveying a key message
on behalf of the President will use the word ‘I’ in his address as if he's the President.
This can be proven easily as earlier in John 14:16, Jesus said, “
And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever”. Clearly, Jesus DID NOT give or send the Comforter
in its literal sense, BUT it was God who gave/sent the Comforter through Jesus.
But your argument must be that there is no word "person" or "personality" explicitly, then what should we do about this verse which further separates the Father?
Luke 11:13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?” If you do not agree, please provide biblical argument against
the Father IS NOT the Son IS NOT Holly ghost
I KNOW Jesus is NOT God and God is NOT Jesus nor is Jesus the Holy Spirit, are you implying I do not know that, or are you agreeing that Jesus is NOT God??
btw., I'm not saying that the Father, the Son or Holly ghost is not "one", I'm saying they do not equal each other as the scriptures clearly show.
It is important to either first agree on this or biblically refute it, otherwise there is not point to continue, agree or biblically refute it, however you wish.
Yes, God and Jesus are NOT
literally one and the same being, they are only
one in purpose. Do you agree?? If not, can you biblically refute it?
Please read entire psalm 139, and you'll see the Lord is mentioned in verse 1 (not his spirit), the point being that psalms refers to both not just one.
Yes, I did read the entire Psalm 139. The Lord was mentioned because it was a prayer directly to God. So, why would ‘Lord’ NOT be mentioned in verse 1?? It’s only when Psalm 139 speaks about the omnipresence of God (Psalm 139:7-8), that ‘Spirit’ is mentioned which should tell you God’s Spirit is the extension of His Energy and Presence and that’s how God can be omnipresent.
In the very first beginning of the bible you can see mention of the Lord (the Father) and the "Spirit of God" (holly ghost) (or Lord's spirit as it is referred to in OT), I underlined:
Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Obviously 2 "personas", if you do not agree, please provide valid biblical argument that contradicts this verse.
Yes, God created the heavens and the earth, and His Energy and His Presence were ‘hovering’ over the waters.
So what “2 personas” are you talking about?? What do you think Genesis 1:1-2 was saying?? That God and the Holy Spirit are 2 different entities?? If a man tells his son “Son, I cannot be with you on this trip, but my ‘spirit’ will always be with you’ – does that mean the man and his ‘spirit’ are separate and different entities???
No I didn't say that, holly ghosts as you can see is mentioned already in the very beginning of the scriptures, that same spirit is present in NT, it's just called by different names.
Otherwise I do not understand what are you trying to say here.
Let me put it in another way – who do you think Jesus was referring to when he spoke of ANOTHER advocate/comforter/helper who Jesus said will only come after his departure?? Was Jesus referring to the Holy Spirit or was he referring to ANOTHER man who when he arrived, will also be an advocate like Jesus himself was??