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The U.S. leads the world in reducing CO2 emissions

Discussion in 'The Green Room' started by Shaul, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. Shaul

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    Good to see we are advancing our tech and getting rid of the old stuff like coal. Another step in the right direction. :thumbsup:
     
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    One thing we could do.....
    Stop increasing property taxes due to the cost
    of insulation & other energy saving measures.
    And ease code restrictions on such things.

    Sure, solar panels & windmills are ugly.
    But we can get used to them.
     
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    Imagine what the US could do if its federal government was leading and ecouraging efforts to further reduce CO2 emissions and at the fore of global leadership on this issue. The fight against climate change would be that much easier. Instead, we fight with a handicap for no good reason.
     
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    I agree, guardedly.

    This still sounds a lot like the world's fattest man leading in a month's weight loss.
    When the USA gets our per capita co2 emissions down around those of other first world countries, like GB, Japan, or Israel, I'll be more impressed. Last I checked, they averaged around 7 tons per person. USA was 17 tons per person. Losing a bit off 17 tons isn't the same as losing off 7 tons.
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    Agreed. The per capita measure is the best measure.
     
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    Apples and oranges. The per capita productivity of Americans is also greater. The better measurement would be how many goods and services does a country produce with the energy it uses. The U.S. produces more goods for a given unit of energy than other countries. IOW if you want produce more things with less CO2 we should make them in the USA.
     
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    The U.S. now produces three times the energy as it did in 1990 with the same level of CO2 emissions as then with an increase in population. The U.S. CO2 emissions per capita has decreased.
     
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    Solar panels are not ugly. I think they look cool.

    And windmills aren't ugly. But they ARE dangerous and a great deal more problematic than the left wing types want to admit. Windfarms can be...and are...REAL hazards to the environment, Huge. But that doesn't matter to the folks who think they are politically correct and therefore harmless.

    And they ain't

    Nuclear fission is, to be honest, a great deal better for the environment than massive windfarms, but nobody had better mention THAT.
     
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    And while that’s good, we can’t claim victory yet.
    Where in the world do people emit the most CO2?
     
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    I can tell you that DEF fluid was a really good idea for diesel trucks and tractors. That along with the "regen" component... You can't smell the diesels anymore like you used to.
     
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    Wrong, your article showed the EU making a bigger reduction in Greenhouse emissions than USA.
     
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    Lol, so materialism is the measure?
     
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    And we have buggy-whip republicans trying to promote coal and suppress cleaner sources of power by using government interference in free enterprise, a thing they hate unless they use it.

    They're only a minority but they exist Bill to penalize utilities for renewable energy returns to Wyoming Legislature, quickly fails
     
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    This.

    looking at the link - it’s true that the US had the largest absolute decline, but it’s percentage decline (2.9%) was a lot lower than that of the other advanced economies (3.2% for advanced economies in general, 5% for the EU, 8% for Germany and 4.3% for Japan).

    it’s good that they are going down, but there is still a long way to go.
     
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    A Forest of windmills off our coastline here looks so brilliant that it has increased tourism.

    I guess that some folks thought that windmills were ugly several hundred years ago, and Oast House chimneys too. They are now the face and the character of beautiful Kent, UK.
     
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    The US is 6th in production per capita. The 5 countries above them are European

    Also the link you gave in the OP shows Europe leading the US in the chart
    Change in energy related CO2 emissions by region, 2018-2019

     
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