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The U.S. leads the world in reducing CO2 emissions

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Good to see we are advancing our tech and getting rid of the old stuff like coal. Another step in the right direction. :thumbsup:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Good to see we are advancing our tech and getting rid of the old stuff like coal. Another step in the right direction. :thumbsup:
One thing we could do.....
Stop increasing property taxes due to the cost
of insulation & other energy saving measures.
And ease code restrictions on such things.

Sure, solar panels & windmills are ugly.
But we can get used to them.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
The U.S. leads the world as the nation that reduced its CO2 emissions the most. Global emissions did not increase in 2019.

Global CO2 emissions in 2019 – Analysis - IEA

Imagine what the US could do if its federal government was leading and ecouraging efforts to further reduce CO2 emissions and at the fore of global leadership on this issue. The fight against climate change would be that much easier. Instead, we fight with a handicap for no good reason.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Good to see we are advancing our tech and getting rid of the old stuff like coal. Another step in the right direction. :thumbsup:
I agree, guardedly.

This still sounds a lot like the world's fattest man leading in a month's weight loss.
When the USA gets our per capita co2 emissions down around those of other first world countries, like GB, Japan, or Israel, I'll be more impressed. Last I checked, they averaged around 7 tons per person. USA was 17 tons per person. Losing a bit off 17 tons isn't the same as losing off 7 tons.
Tom
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
I agree, guardedly.

This still sounds a lot like the world's fattest man leading in a month's weight loss.
When the USA gets our per capita co2 emissions down around those of other first world countries, like GB, Japan, or Israel, I'll be more impressed. Last I checked, they averaged around 7 tons per person. USA was 17 tons per person. Losing a bit off 17 tons isn't the same as losing off 7 tons.
Tom
Agreed. The per capita measure is the best measure.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I agree, guardedly.

This still sounds a lot like the world's fattest man leading in a month's weight loss.
When the USA gets our per capita co2 emissions down around those of other first world countries, like GB, Japan, or Israel, I'll be more impressed. Last I checked, they averaged around 7 tons per person. USA was 17 tons per person. Losing a bit off 17 tons isn't the same as losing off 7 tons.
Tom
Apples and oranges. The per capita productivity of Americans is also greater. The better measurement would be how many goods and services does a country produce with the energy it uses. The U.S. produces more goods for a given unit of energy than other countries. IOW if you want produce more things with less CO2 we should make them in the USA.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Agreed. The per capita measure is the best measure.
The U.S. now produces three times the energy as it did in 1990 with the same level of CO2 emissions as then with an increase in population. The U.S. CO2 emissions per capita has decreased.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
One thing we could do.....
Stop increasing property taxes due to the cost
of insulation & other energy saving measures.
And ease code restrictions on such things.

Sure, solar panels & windmills are ugly.
But we can get used to them.

Solar panels are not ugly. I think they look cool.

And windmills aren't ugly. But they ARE dangerous and a great deal more problematic than the left wing types want to admit. Windfarms can be...and are...REAL hazards to the environment, Huge. But that doesn't matter to the folks who think they are politically correct and therefore harmless.

And they ain't

Nuclear fission is, to be honest, a great deal better for the environment than massive windfarms, but nobody had better mention THAT.
 

Ayjaydee

Active Member
Apples and oranges. The per capita productivity of Americans is also greater. The better measurement would be how many goods and services does a country produce with the energy it uses. The U.S. produces more goods for a given unit of energy than other countries. IOW if you want produce more things with less CO2 we should make them in the USA.
Lol, so materialism is the measure?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Imagine what the US could do if its federal government was leading and ecouraging efforts to further reduce CO2 emissions and at the fore of global leadership on this issue. The fight against climate change would be that much easier. Instead, we fight with a handicap for no good reason.
And we have buggy-whip republicans trying to promote coal and suppress cleaner sources of power by using government interference in free enterprise, a thing they hate unless they use it.

They're only a minority but they exist Bill to penalize utilities for renewable energy returns to Wyoming Legislature, quickly fails
 

SoyLeche

meh...
I agree, guardedly.

This still sounds a lot like the world's fattest man leading in a month's weight loss.
When the USA gets our per capita co2 emissions down around those of other first world countries, like GB, Japan, or Israel, I'll be more impressed. Last I checked, they averaged around 7 tons per person. USA was 17 tons per person. Losing a bit off 17 tons isn't the same as losing off 7 tons.
Tom
This.

looking at the link - it’s true that the US had the largest absolute decline, but it’s percentage decline (2.9%) was a lot lower than that of the other advanced economies (3.2% for advanced economies in general, 5% for the EU, 8% for Germany and 4.3% for Japan).

it’s good that they are going down, but there is still a long way to go.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Apples and oranges. The per capita productivity of Americans is also greater. The better measurement would be how many goods and services does a country produce with the energy it uses. The U.S. produces more goods for a given unit of energy than other countries. IOW if you want produce more things with less CO2 we should make them in the USA.


The US is 6th in production per capita. The 5 countries above them are European

Also the link you gave in the OP shows Europe leading the US in the chart
Change in energy related CO2 emissions by region, 2018-2019

 
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