REGARDING THE JEHOVAHS WITNESS DOCTRINE OF RESURRECTION REPRESENTING A CLONE OR COPY OF THE ORIGINAL
YoursTrue said : “Actually annihilation at death is not a term I would use. What death is is a cessation of life. Annihilation would be complete destruction.” (post #100)
Hi @YoursTrue
I agree with you. The two terms have different meaning.
Like you, I also felt the jehovahs Witness Deeje was incorrect and I argued in post #32 against the word destruction (Απολεσαι of Matt 10:28) as meaning "annihilation".
However, The Jehovahs Witness Deeje explained her reason for teaching annihilation, as a Jehovahs Witness doctrine, saying : “So I don't know how you can say that Jesus is not stressing annihilation. This is the destruction of a life in its entirety....meaning no future existence whatsoever. (post #33)
In describing the Jehovahs Witness doctrine of resurrection Deeje explained their concept of the meaning of the word “renewal”. @Deeje said : " the highlighted phrases are a translation of the word "palingenesia" which Strongs defines as...new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration".....so in the world to come, all things will be regenerated or recreated....including those who come back in the resurrection. This nonsense about having to continue life in some shadowy form…” (post #31)
So, while I agree with you that “destroy” is a better term, Deeje and other Jehovahs Witnesses describe the loss of all prior aspects of life as an “annihilation”. This is why I used the word the Jehovahs Witnesses taught me.
The base point here is that the religion created by the Jehovahs Witnesses in the 1800s that they describe in their literature is a different religion that that of the earliest Judeo-Christians that they describe in their literature.
1) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the concept of a spirit placed in man and replaced it with a purely physical nature.
2) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the ancient concept of Hades/Sheol/world of spirits as a way station to which these spirits went after their bodies died and replaced that doctrine by the physical grave and annihilation of the person (per Deeje), OR as I also accept, your word “destruction” of the person – either word is fine with me.
3) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the resurrection of this same spirit into a new body and replaced it by a recreation of a clone or copy of the original person that is created at resurrection since the original was annihilated (per Deeje) , OR, as I also accept, your word “the original is destroyed” – either word is fine with me.
4) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the doctrine of resurrection of individuals at the time Jesus was resurrected and replaced that doctrine with one that has a resurrection only after Armageddon.
Thanks for your comment @YoursTrue
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YoursTrue said : “Actually annihilation at death is not a term I would use. What death is is a cessation of life. Annihilation would be complete destruction.” (post #100)
Hi @YoursTrue
I agree with you. The two terms have different meaning.
Like you, I also felt the jehovahs Witness Deeje was incorrect and I argued in post #32 against the word destruction (Απολεσαι of Matt 10:28) as meaning "annihilation".
However, The Jehovahs Witness Deeje explained her reason for teaching annihilation, as a Jehovahs Witness doctrine, saying : “So I don't know how you can say that Jesus is not stressing annihilation. This is the destruction of a life in its entirety....meaning no future existence whatsoever. (post #33)
In describing the Jehovahs Witness doctrine of resurrection Deeje explained their concept of the meaning of the word “renewal”. @Deeje said : " the highlighted phrases are a translation of the word "palingenesia" which Strongs defines as...new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration".....so in the world to come, all things will be regenerated or recreated....including those who come back in the resurrection. This nonsense about having to continue life in some shadowy form…” (post #31)
So, while I agree with you that “destroy” is a better term, Deeje and other Jehovahs Witnesses describe the loss of all prior aspects of life as an “annihilation”. This is why I used the word the Jehovahs Witnesses taught me.
The base point here is that the religion created by the Jehovahs Witnesses in the 1800s that they describe in their literature is a different religion that that of the earliest Judeo-Christians that they describe in their literature.
1) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the concept of a spirit placed in man and replaced it with a purely physical nature.
2) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the ancient concept of Hades/Sheol/world of spirits as a way station to which these spirits went after their bodies died and replaced that doctrine by the physical grave and annihilation of the person (per Deeje), OR as I also accept, your word “destruction” of the person – either word is fine with me.
3) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the resurrection of this same spirit into a new body and replaced it by a recreation of a clone or copy of the original person that is created at resurrection since the original was annihilated (per Deeje) , OR, as I also accept, your word “the original is destroyed” – either word is fine with me.
4) The Jehovahs Witness religion abandoned the doctrine of resurrection of individuals at the time Jesus was resurrected and replaced that doctrine with one that has a resurrection only after Armageddon.
Thanks for your comment @YoursTrue
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