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The rule of Jesus
- Thread starter Heneni
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Why didn't he just do that from the get go? Christians have been rubbing their hands and saying "Any day now..." for almost the past 2000 years.
Heneni
Miss Independent
they must have warm hands by now then
I already filled in my application for royal butler. :cold: Its been gathering a staggering amount of dust. Does that mean iv'e been declined? Maybe my cooking scared Jesus away. I apologise in advance.
HOW LONG LORD? HOW LONG?
Wandered Off
Sporadic Driveby Member
Maybe he just rules in your heart, and that's your own little heaven.
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
Jesus can only rule those who choose to be ruled by Him. Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world". His kingdom is a spiritual kingdom. If He has a kingdom on earth, then it is only manifested in the individuals obedience and love for God and his creation.
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
Bingo!
AK4
Well-Known Member
I will ask yall this--
Where is Heaven?
What is Heaven?
and last but not least--If Jesus sits on the throne of God in His Temple, where is Gods Throne?
If Jesus comes back to rule the earth and set up His kingdom, who is he ruling?--If people "GO" or is raptured to a place called Heaven and people "GO" to a place called Hell or is annihilated for eternity. Who's on earth for Him to rule? Animals?
Please use scripture and not just your opinion
AK4
Well-Known Member
Sorry thats not scriptural. Who can choose him when...
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Somebody has lied to you in your church
AK4
Well-Known Member
logician
Well-Known Member
You forgot the "none of the above" option.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Irrelevent to the OP
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Yes to all.
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
Matthew 10:7 (NIV)
7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.'
Revelation 21:3 (NIV)
3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God
It's a dwelling place for God.
Revelation 3:21
21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
It must be a big throne.
I'm not sure. I can speculate, but you don't want speculations.
Dunemeister
Well-Known Member
Biblically, "heaven" is not a "place" that is somehow separated from the physical aspect of creation. Rather, heaven is, if you like, the spiritual aspect of the created order. As the creed says, the Father is "the creator of heaven and earth." Thus both heaven and earth are created realities, and heaven is (what we would call) the spiritual aspect, whereas "the cosmos" is (what we would call) the physical aspect. The two are different sides of the same coin, not different coins altogether.
According to his own proclamation, Jesus inaugurated the "kingdom of God" through his ministry. His death ironically and mysteriously completed his particular unique task of wresting control of the world from "the accuser" or "the adversary". Thus, through Christ, God rules the entire cosmos RIGHT NOW. Of course, he hasn't set it all to rights yet, but we are assured that he will. In the meantime, the role of the church is to implement and celebrate Jesus' victory over the accuser/adversary through worship :bow:, acts of mercy :help:, and by making the wisdom of God known :shout to the powers that be :knight:.
This is a debate forum ...
Dunemeister
Well-Known Member
This is a debate forum ...
Well, it seems he's set the terms of the debate as a multiple disjunction, soooo.....
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It is, actually.
UnityNow101
Well-Known Member
Jesus is going to come back as a poor beggar and be missed by all of you self-righteous, materially-minded zealots...Wait, didn't Jesus say that the generation alive during his lifetime would not pass away before they would see his second coming? Maybe his surviving the crucifixion was his "second" arrival. Or maybe none of it will happen? Who knows and who really cares?
I love the teachings of Jesus Christ but they have been misconstrued by the mindless majority and have lost the power that I once felt that they had. If you look for the reigning king, you will only find a shallow puppet whose strings are being pulled by the powers that be, which have no "power" other than what we have given up to serve it's pointless cause.
I love the teachings of Jesus Christ but they have been misconstrued by the mindless majority and have lost the power that I once felt that they had. If you look for the reigning king, you will only find a shallow puppet whose strings are being pulled by the powers that be, which have no "power" other than what we have given up to serve it's pointless cause.