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The Reality Of Hell

Super Universe

Defender of God
logician said:
The onus is on the person who claims there is an afterlife. The only facts we have are that people die. Prove there is something alive after death.

Anyone who makes a claim without proof loses credibility. You claim there is no God but have yet to provide any real proof.

Where's my proof? The universe.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
The onus is always on the positive assertion, not the negative. The onus is on YOU TO PROVE THERE IS A GOD.

I won't hold my breath.
 

maro

muslimah
I couldn't believe that there r actually some people who don't believe in God

and that we have to find a proof for them that there is a great God who created this perfectly organized, wonderful universe
and who created us for a purpose

if there hearts can't feel that, because their hearts r blocked

are there minds blocked too

are their eyes blind

I really pity them, their lives must be horrible

I wonder how they couldn't believe in hell too, when they r living inside it
 

may

Well-Known Member
adlemi said:
But the problem here is that you are interpreting the bible on your own understanding of what is written. From whom did you learn that the lake of fire is just symbolic? YOu do believe God is real and alive and yet you do it on your own using the verses of the bible, are they God himself?
understanding about the bible and many things in it have become more and more clearer in the time that we are living in now. and the bible never lies , we are living in thrilling times indeed ,
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant." Daniel 12;4 yes true knowledge is out there , and it is becoming ever clearer and ever brighter
(Proverbs 4:18) But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. Jesus has it all in control, true knowledge is becoming abundant. everlasting life or total destruction . hellfire is a NO,NO. and not true bible teaching . dont get left in the dark , go to the light, and be enlightened. a feeding for starving ones is open to all , matthew 24;45-47 thrilling times indeed .
 

adlemi

Member
may said:
understanding about the bible and many things in it have become more and more clearer in the time that we are living in now
Using the bible as a mere guide for us to seek and come to the Lord God is good, but going far more from that will be deleterious to our salvation and eternal salvation. We have to seek our salvation who is no other but the Lord God and if we're able to do that, then the rest that we should know in our life will be taught to us by the Lord himself.

. and the bible never lies
This is just a mere assumption and not the truth. Only God can tell if same tells a lie or not but not anyone among mankind.
, we are living in thrilling times indeed ,
We are now in the time of the Great Tribulation where the devils are the major keyplayers under the direct control of the Lord God.
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant." Daniel 12;4 yes true knowledge is out there , and it is becoming ever clearer and ever brighter
(Proverbs 4:18) But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. Jesus has it all in control, true knowledge is becoming abundant. everlasting life or total destruction . hellfire is a NO,NO. and not true bible teaching . dont get left in the dark , go to the light, and be enlightened. a feeding for starving ones is open to all , matthew 24;45-47 thrilling times indeed .

If anyone wants to go to the light, then seek the Lord God directly and learn from Him being the Almighty. Ask from God what you wanted to know from the bible and let not your own wisdom gives you the meaning of what you are reading from the bible. Hell is for real comes Judgment day and anyone found to be in hell will swim in the lake of fire.
 

may

Well-Known Member
adlemi said:
may said:
Hell is for real comes Judgment day and anyone found to be in hell will swim in the lake of fire.
how can they swim in hellfire if they are dead.

Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, . . . but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be DESTROYED but desires all to attain to repentance."—2 PETER 3:9.
 

adlemi

Member
may said:
how can they swim in hellfire if they are dead.
It is only your flesh and bone which will suffer physical death and physical burning but not your soul and spirit which will swim in the lake of fire and boiling water should you landed in hell, or which will be with the Lord should you landed in Paradise.
 

may

Well-Known Member
adlemi said:
may said:
It is only your flesh and bone which will suffer physical death and physical burning but not your soul and spirit which will swim in the lake of fire and boiling water should you landed in hell, or which will be with the Lord should you landed in Paradise.
the bible does not teach... the immortality of the human soul,.......... we do not have a shadowy something inside of us, this is not a bible teaching and many are misled by it , and false religious teachers down through time have a lot to answer for . they make God out to be evil , and that is very bad indeed. no there is no rleality of hell in the way you mention. fire symbolizes total destruction . its as simple as that. the loving God of the bible does not do evil things.
Ezek. 18:4: "The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die."
"The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.
Rom. 6:7: "He who has died has been acquitted from his sin."
the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means "Slanderer"), the one whom Jesus Christ called "the father of the lie."—John 8:44.
 

BFD_Zayl

Well-Known Member
Well, the way i have always heard it is they got the word from the norse "Hel" which is the norse goddess of the underworld (which is actually called Nifelheim) not a bad place to be, unless your a traitor or criminal. *shrugs* almost all of the pagans i meet online whole heartedly support this fact, but i think they are doing it to "prove" something about christianity. im not sure
 

may

Well-Known Member
This frightening doctrine goes back to the post-Flood religions of Babylonia, not to the Bible.
Christendom’s doctrine of punishment in hell originated with the early Babylonians. it is not a true bible teaching , so called religious teachers have a lot to answer for. telling lies about the God of the bible. no wonder people are repulsed by this teaching. but dont let it put you off looking into the bible, the bible as the pure word of God does not teach this evil doctrine , it is a manmade doctrine . lies lies lies
 

logician

Well-Known Member
Christianity today certainly preaches both a heaven and hell, no matter where they originated from , that's why I consider Christianity to be a barbaric religion.
 

adlemi

Member
may said:
adlemi said:
the bible does not teach... the immortality of the human soul,.......... we do not have a shadowy something inside of us, this is not a bible teaching and many are misled by it , and false religious teachers down through time have a lot to answer for . they make God out to be evil , and that is very bad indeed. no there is no rleality of hell in the way you mention. fire symbolizes total destruction . its as simple as that. the loving God of the bible does not do evil things.
Ezek. 18:4: "The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die."
"The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.
Rom. 6:7: "He who has died has been acquitted from his sin."
the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means "Slanderer"), the one whom Jesus Christ called "the father of the lie."—John 8:44.
The book of Luke in chapter 16 clearly describes the event that will take place once we die and it is there that our soul and spirit rises to see the reality of the other world which by now is the destiny of the soul and spirit of the dead persons. It is also in the book of Apocalypse in chapter 21 where we can read that the lake of fire is the destiny of the spirit of the wicked and the likes. In the book of Matthew the Lord said fear not those who only kill the flesh but are not able to kill the soul and this is also a clear indication that our spirit is still alive although our physical body maybe dead and rotten already.

It is only the understandings and interpretations of men of what is written in the bible that make things worst in the world of religious denominations. Learn from the Lord God directly and the reality about hell will be made clear in our mind by the Lord God himself.
 

adlemi

Member
logician said:
Christianity today certainly preaches both a heaven and hell, no matter where they originated from , that's why I consider Christianity to be a barbaric religion.
But what if the Lord God himself teaches you the same thing about the reality of heaven and hell, would you also consider God himself as barbaric?
 

may

Well-Known Member
logician said:
Christianity today certainly preaches both a heaven and hell, no matter where they originated from , that's why I consider Christianity to be a barbaric religion.
true christianity does not preach hellfire and neither does the bible dont get misled by false teaching.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
"true christianity does not preach hellfire "

The majority of American demoninations preach a real hell.
 

adlemi

Member
logician said:
There is no god, no intelligent entity would create Bush.
Should there be no God, there should be no logician interacting with me thru email. Do you not know that we only live because of God and that God is the only source of all things? Would you just wait for your death just to see the reality of the existence of God?
 

adlemi

Member
may said:
true christianity does not preach hellfire and neither does the bible dont get misled by false teaching.
True Christianity is the One whose Head, Keeper, Overseer, Good Pastor, and Teacher is the Lord God Jesus Christ himself and the Lord is the One leading the flocks. True Christianity does not have man pastors, ministers, lay leaders, etc. but only the Lord is the Leader of the whole flock which are scattered all over the face of the globe. The Lord God himself teaches hell fire in order that those who believe the Lord get saved from the said hell fire which will be formed by the merger of all exploded heavenly bodies in the whole universe including our very own earth.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
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Should there be no God, there should be no logician interacting with me thru email"

Untrue, no creator god is needed in an infinite multiverse, it's just as easy to say that matter and energy have always existed as to say some supernatural entity has always existed.
 

may

Well-Known Member
logician said:
"true christianity does not preach hellfire "

The majority of American demoninations preach a real hell.
if they preach a litral hellfire then they are teaching manmade doctrines and not the bible teaching.
 
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