The Reality Of Hell

[may]

but only the Lord is the Leader of the whole flock which are scattered all over the face of the globe. .

very true , and they are his faithful ones, matthew 24;45-47 who do not take on board manmade doctrines should as litral hellfire. faithfulness leads to great blessings.

 

[adlemi]

"Should there be no God, there should be no logician interacting with me thru email"

Untrue, no creator god is needed in an infinite multiverse, it's just as easy to say that matter and energy have always existed as to say some supernatural entity has always existed.

This kind of reasoning needs another incarnation on the part of God just to let mankind know that there is really God existing in His own way. But should there be another one? What if there is none and judgment day is the only one that awaits mankind?

 

[adlemi]

very true , and they are his faithful ones, matthew 24;45-47 who do not take on board manmade doctrines should as litral hellfire. faithfulness leads to great blessings.

It is clear in this part that you're only getting your explanation from the bible as you understand the verses that you are reading, but never that you get them directly from the Lord God Jesus Christ in a way that He did to Paul and others.

 

[may]

It is clear in this part that you're only getting your explanation from the bible as you understand the verses that you are reading, but never that you get them directly from the Lord God Jesus Christ in a way that He did to Paul and others.

understanding about the bible becomes clearer and clearer in these the last days .accurate understanding is becoming abundant . Daniel 12;4 what words actually mean , such as hell , enlightens many. yes the path gets lighter and lighter ,and clearer and clearer . dont get left behind

 

[adlemi]

understanding about the bible becomes clearer and clearer in these the last days .accurate understanding is becoming abundant . Daniel 12;4 what words actually mean , such as hell , enlightens many. yes the path gets lighter and lighter ,and clearer and clearer . dont get left behind

True understanding only emanates from the Lord God Jesus Christ himself and not from the bible which only brings divisions and denominations in the world of the so called religious people of today and yesterday.

 

[may]

True understanding only emanates from the Lord God Jesus Christ himself and not from the bible which only brings divisions and denominations in the world of the so called religious people of today and yesterday.

The fear of Jehovah is the start of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Most Holy One is what understanding is proverbs 9;10
(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ............................ and its all in the bible

 

[Genna]

if they preach a litral hellfire then they are teaching manmade doctrines and not the bible teaching.

May I ask what is the meaning of hell to you?

 

[adlemi]

The fear of Jehovah is the start of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Most Holy One is what understanding is proverbs 9;10

See, even the bible points you to have fear in God Jehovah for understanding and knowledge is in God himself. So come to God who is the source of wisdom and put all your trust in the Lord God himself. Use the bible as your guide in coming directly to God.

(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ............................ and its all in the bible

Yes indeed, but it does not say that the bible is God. God is our eternal and everlasting life, not the bible. The bible testifies to us that God is our eternal life, hence we must come directly to God for us to have eternal life.

 

[may]

May I ask what is the meaning of hell to you?

the meaning of hell according to the bible is,
.............the common grave of dead mankind; the words
The Hebrew she’ohl´ and its Greek equivalent hai´des, mean just that,
the Greek ge´en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. the bible according to accurate knowledge does not teach manmade doctrines of litral hellfire

Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.​

Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words. For example: (1) The King James Version rendered she’ohl´ as "hell," "the grave," and "the pit"; hai´des is therein rendered both "hell" and "grave"; ge´en·na is also translated "hell." (2) Today’s English Version transliterates hai´des as "Hades" and also renders it as "hell" and "the world of the dead." But besides rendering "hell" from hai´des it uses that same translation for ge´en·na. (3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates hai´des six times, but in other passages it translates it as "hell" and as "the underworld." It also translates ge´en·na as "hell," as it does hai´des in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.

 

[may]

Yes indeed, but it does not say that the bible is God. God is our eternal and everlasting life, not the bible. The bible testifies to us that God is our eternal life, hence we must come directly to God for us to have eternal life.

the bible comes from God, it is inspired of God, that is where we learn about God , 2 timothy 3;16 but as you said , of cause the bible is not God . without the bible we would not learn about Jehovahs purpose for the earth. yes its all in the bible . what a thrilling book it is
For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. romans 15;4
(2 Peter 1:21) For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit......... yes the bible is a book of prophecy and many prophecies are under going fullfillment right now in this time of the end., and it will be beneficial for all of us to look into Gods word the bible.

 

[may]

Adlemi says...........Use the bible as your guide in coming directly to God................. yes, there is no other book like the bible it leads us to accurate knowledge about the most high. psalm 83;18

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,​

You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

 

[gnostic]

My understanding of Greek mythology indicated that Tartarus is a Greek version of hell, a place of punishment for wicked deeds. It also serve as imprisonment for the Titans, the early gods of the Greek pantheon (before that of the Olympians.)

Hades on the other hand, is not hell, but a place where all departed souls would reside. Hades is divided into several regions. Tartarus is only one region of Hades, and the deepest. Erebus is another. Most souls who are judged go to the Plain of Asphodel, another part of Hades, where there is neither sorrow or joy, and they don't retain their memory of when they were living.

Only the special ones go to Elysian Fields, a special part of Hades. Here the shades retained their memory of former lives. There is pleasure and joy here. The Elysian Fields is the closest thing to heaven, but it is not heaven because the gods don't dwell here (well, the Netherworld deites may live here, but it is still not heaven.)

Heaven to the Greeks is Olympus, and this is the home of gods, not a netherworld, thus not an abode of the dead. They associate Olympus with the sky or at least on the peak of the mountain.

 

[gnostic]

There has been no mention of the Norse Hel, sometimes known as Niflhel, which means "dark hel".

In Norse mythology, Hel is also a name of the goddess, who ruled the netherworld (thus abode of the dead), where all mortals dwelled after their death. This is also not hell in the Christian sense.

The Norse version of hell, as the places of punishment for the dead are Nastrands and Hvergelmir.

 

[may]

(Tar´ta·rus).

A prisonlike, abased condition into which God cast disobedient angels in Noah’s day.​

This word is found but once in the inspired Scriptures, at 2 Peter 2:4. The apostle writes: "God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment." The expression "throwing them into Tartarus" is from the Greek verb tar·ta·ro´o and so includes within itself the word "Tartarus."
it is evident that Tartarus is a condition rather than a particular location,
the abased condition represented by Tartarus should not be confused with "the abyss" into which Satan and his demons are eventually to be cast for the thousand years of Christ’s rule. (Re 20:1-3)

 

[adlemi]

Adlemi says...........Use the bible as your guide in coming directly to God................. yes, there is no other book like the bible it leads us to accurate knowledge about the most high. psalm 83;18

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,​

You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Only God himself can lead us to accurate knowledge about the most high Almighty Lord God and not anything else.

 

[Spirit Channeller]

The onus is on the person who claims there is an afterlife. The only facts we have are that people die. Prove there is something alive after death.

I cannot scientifically prove there is an afterlife but I personally know there is an afterlife.
I personally know when the body dies here on Earth the spirit with all its intelligence leaves that body on Earth and memories, Intellilgence goes to the Afterlife and can communicate back through channels on Earth and they can share their ideas and continue work they had not finished when they find a channel on Earth who believes and will agree to channel for them.
But proving this to someone is another matter.
I however communicate with relatives in the afterlife on a daily basis.
And I personally believe anyone who wants to develop their Psychic Gift to do this can do the same thing and it doesn't take any special talent but just practice because I believe we all have the ability to do this.

 

[logician]

"but I personally know there is an afterlife.
"

And I can say I personally know there isn't. One person's word is as good as another.

 

[may]

Only God himself can lead us to accurate knowledge about the most high Almighty Lord God and not anything else.

without the bible there would be no accurate knowledge about God.
(Psalm 119:105) Your word is a lamp to my foot, And a light to my roadway.
(Romans 15:4) For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.................. yes its all in the bible , its like a lamp leading us to get to know about God and about his purpose for the earth. and it was written for our instruction. and the hope that it gives us brings us comfort .

 

[adlemi]

without the bible there would be no accurate knowledge about God.

The bible is not God himself but God is always the Almighty God. Without the bible in the whole world, there is always God who can always give mankind the accurate knowledge about God. Why accurate? Because God himself is the One infallible.

 

[lockyfan]

The bible is not God himself but God is always the Almighty God. Without the bible in the whole world, there is always God who can always give mankind the accurate knowledge about God. Why accurate? Because God himself is the One infallible.

What may was saying is that the bible is inspired from Jehovah God. it is there as a way to guide us humans in how we live and to show us who God really is so that we can fully understand and properly worship him, by knowing what kind of a god he truly is. god may be infallable, but humans are not! the human race needs help and guidance from a higher being and that is what the bible is there for, so that we can learn and choose o stand by and follow god rather than this world, which is in satans hands at this point in time, but wont be for long!