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The Prodigal Son and Satan

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by nutshell, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

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    But some general authorities have stated infants/small children, while getting a free pass, will be raised by their parents in the next life. I'm assuming that will include some sort of progression.

    So, by your logic, Satan is either a) like a little child, or b) like the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Not sure I can agree with either of those.
     
  2. madhatter85

    madhatter85 Transhumanist

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    he is like neither because he cannot gain a physical body.

    as for the children statement, yes, they will be raised during the millennium by their parents, but they will be resurrected beings, they will no longer have a veil. they did not need to progress in mortality. only in immortality.
     
  3. madhatter85

    madhatter85 Transhumanist

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    but, Jesus Christ and Lucifer are the opposites of each other. hey had two opposing plans, and Lucifer's was against the nature of free-agency and the will of God. Jesus Christ's plan was selfless and because it was chosen, Lucifer became angry and got too big for his own britches, threw a tissy fit and god cast out of heaven. he then took 1/3 of the host of heaven with him.

    D&C: 76
    the D&C affirms my statements made that he committed the unpardonable sin.
     
  4. FFH

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    Satan is not sorry for his evil deeds, he gladly does them, knowing full well it makes God angry, he get's a sick kick out it.

    Why should we show sympathy for someone like this ??????

    3 Nephi 9
    [SIZE=-1]... for the devil laugheth, and his angels rejoice, because of the slain of the fair sons and daughters...[/SIZE]

    The Devil and his angels want nothing more than for us all to be dead and consigned to hell for eternity.

    The twin towers are an example of what Satan can and will do in the future if allowed the chance to possess the bodies of men as evil as they are.

    Satan is a serial killer, don't feel sorry for the dude, he will burn in hell for all the evil he has purpetrated upon the human race.
     
  5. lunamoth

    lunamoth Will to love

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    Some believe that it will.
     
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    Ceridwen018 Well-Known Member

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    Satan can't be forgiven because that would ruin the whole good/evil, ying/yang, light/darkness contrast that every religion/western movie needs to stay interesting.
     
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  7. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    This is what I figure the case to be.
    There is a big difference between "not being able to" and "not wanting to."
     
  8. Captain Civic

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    True. But neither are specified in the Bible.
     
  9. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    Agreed.
    And that is why I stated "I figure."
     
  10. sandy whitelinger

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    I don't see how that changes the premise of my post.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    If Satan exists as a being, then that being is, ultimately, a child of God, no matter how far that being strays from God's presence. I believe that, eventually, God's grace will win out over our propensity to wander off. Everyone will be reconciled.
     
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    Too bad that's not a Scriptural view.
     
  13. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

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    Because LDS belief Satan is one of God's spirit children, just like you and me.
     
  14. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Too bad it is...
     
  15. madhatter85

    madhatter85 Transhumanist

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    where is the scripture to back it?
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    **sigh** Do I really have to point out **yet again** all of the universalist themes in the Bible? Read it for yourself.
     
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    too lazy to look it all up in the Bible especially since i have absolutely no idea how to find something that's not there.
     
  18. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    Why not start a thread called "Universalist Themes in the Bible," list them in the thread, then link to that thread whenever anyone asks for you to support your claim?
    One would think that that is a much better alternative to "Read it for yourself."
     
  19. lunamoth

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    If you see the universalist theme in the Bible you see it everywhere, not just in one or two passages.
     
  20. Mestemia

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    Since I am unfamiliar with universalism to begin with, the statement in post #36 is not only useless but seems like a rather insufficient way to support ones claim.
     
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