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The number of ex-Muslims in America is rising
- Thread starter Eihab
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The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Good. May America, the West generally and the rest of the world be a safe place for any & all who take the risk of leaving Islam.
Was there something you wanted to discuss regarding this? I ask only because just posting a link leaves a lot of guesswork for what you're trying to say.
Sometimes, I like the corrupting influence we have.
Eihab
Journalist
Thank you for your asking, I am in America, Just feel happy to read it, so, wanted to share with you all.
What is better a marriage where divorce is illegal or a marriage where divorce is legal?
Eihab
Journalist
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
SMH
So say we all.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
I'm curious... what is it based on? and do they tend to become secular? or other world views?
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
The problem with highlighting ex-Muslims is that most ex-Muslims come from war torn countries or come from places where there is heavy extremist views. Irshad Manji is a heavy influence, and unfortunately many ex-Muslims paint this picture that Islam is inherently wrong based on their own experience, linking it with scripture. Unfortunately, Muslims drunk with power have been the cornerstone and the face of Islam, and like any religion its members are seen as the face of the religion.
If we want to be technical Christianity as practiced in contemporary times have been the most poisonous of all faiths, but we would not see that in the media due to the influence of Christian economical influence. People leave and exchange religious faiths all the time this is nothing new in the world. Islam is no different and its not even thread worthy to even present such a thing. The only reason why "ex-Muslims" do this because at some point they were affected someway either living in an extremist society denoting the behaviors of extremist with said religion, or they were just unhappy., Either way, what is the point?
I'm an ex baptist Christian but does that mean I'll make a thread of how bad Christianity is? No. I had some disagreements with its theology and I left but it doesn't mean I'm going to make a thread on how bad it is, it just isn't for me. But those who make these types of threads have axes to grind.
If we want to be technical Christianity as practiced in contemporary times have been the most poisonous of all faiths, but we would not see that in the media due to the influence of Christian economical influence. People leave and exchange religious faiths all the time this is nothing new in the world. Islam is no different and its not even thread worthy to even present such a thing. The only reason why "ex-Muslims" do this because at some point they were affected someway either living in an extremist society denoting the behaviors of extremist with said religion, or they were just unhappy., Either way, what is the point?
I'm an ex baptist Christian but does that mean I'll make a thread of how bad Christianity is? No. I had some disagreements with its theology and I left but it doesn't mean I'm going to make a thread on how bad it is, it just isn't for me. But those who make these types of threads have axes to grind.
Jedster
Well-Known Member
What does SMH mean?
Shaking my head.
Jedster
Well-Known Member
Cheers.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
shaking my head
To the best of my understanding it is based on the realization that the fear of repression is considerably lessened in these climates.
Frankly, the lack of proper religiosity in Islaam is an even stronger factor. Many Muslims seem to sincerely mistake fear-of-god with piety.
That goes a long way towards explaining why most ex-Muslims seem to indeed acquire a secularist perspective. They learn Islaam and mistake it with a form of religion, because they have been told night and day that it is, in fact, the one true religion.
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I wonder if you realize how many times you make statements that are firmly at odds with the actual evidence and logic itself on this short piece of text.
Of course Muslim countries have a tendency to be war-torn and to nurture extremist views. That is Islaam we are talking about.
Of course Islaam is linked with scripture (out of its own insistence and design). And of course people will talk of their own experiences. They are supposed to.
As for a lust for power being perceived as the face of Islaam... Again, what else would you expect? The Qur'an is what it is.
So you claim that Islaam is less poisonous than Christianity? How so?
I beg to differ. Islaam is quite the contrast to true religious faiths. Not least because it relies so much on fear and repression to artificially suppress questioning that might lead people to leave its ranks.
Don't you see that the correlation with Islaam is hardly coincidental?
Or, far more likely, Islaam has significant issues that Baptist Christianity lacks.
Sometimes an ideology actually receives criticism because it has earned it. It does happen.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
@Luis Dantes
I do not wish to go back and forth with you regarding this matter....There is no intellectual value discussing Islam with you, no offense but I grow annoyed discussing religion with close minded individuals. That is not to say we ought to agree but if you have no ear to listen to someone who is more knowledgeable than you on religious matters in this case Islam, then there is no point.
I do not wish to go back and forth with you regarding this matter....There is no intellectual value discussing Islam with you, no offense but I grow annoyed discussing religion with close minded individuals. That is not to say we ought to agree but if you have no ear to listen to someone who is more knowledgeable than you on religious matters in this case Islam, then there is no point.
There seems to be no point. On that much we agree.
It is sad that you misjudge me so utterly, but I guess I have to accept that.
It is sad that you misjudge me so utterly, but I guess I have to accept that.
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
There are people that leave Islam in the US, but there are also quite a few that embrace Islam in the US.
Studies estimated approximately 30,000 convert to Islam annually in the United States.
Like @Epic Beard Man said people leave and exchange religious faiths all the time this is nothing new in the world,and Islam is no different.
Studies estimated approximately 30,000 convert to Islam annually in the United States.
Like @Epic Beard Man said people leave and exchange religious faiths all the time this is nothing new in the world,and Islam is no different.