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And so.... what?
Where I live Muslim youth is as different to Muslim extremism as could be.
You're not trying to tell us that Caesar, or Genghis Kan, or Cleopatra were better, nicer, sweeter more wonderful folks I hope?
That begs the question: Just who and what do you hold in high regard, trust and esteem?
Islam is itself extremist - I don't actually care about Muslims, the entire premises of Islam are both false and extreme. For example, claiming the Qur'an is the perfect, inimitable, unaltered, inerrant word of god, that there can be no final revelations and Muhammad is the final messenger, and Islam must be established as the only acceptable religion etc. is all as extreme as it gets. This, when taken into account that the Qur'an is forged from Christian strophic hymns and apocryphal texts, that the idol of Muhammad didn't actually arise until much later and Islam viciously spread by the sword, is at the peak of extremism, and it has nothing to do with Muslims (who are victims to the ideology) but everything to do with Islam.
The entire past few thousand years are full of patriarchy: it is coincidental with the dark ages of man. It's too bad the religions don't teach people about the cycles: most people are not even aware of any cycles beyond the 365.25 day solar cycle or the 28 day lunar one. There is a cycle of 25 920 years within which human conscious peaks and falls. Its last peak was ~11500 BCE and its last fall was ~500 AD. All of this patriarchy nonsense can be found near the latter, and that involves your Caesar, Genghis Kan, Cleopatra etc.
What is it with Muhammadans that always try to point fingers elsewhere away from Islam? It's simple: they have a phobia of criticisms of Islam, hence 'Islamophobia' which Muslims project outward and imbue all others as having. That is the backwards degeneracy of Islam: projection and it is all Muslims really do. They simply can't take criticisms without trying to 'label' someone something or point fingers elsewhere.
I don't believe that!
Many of the wonderful discoveries have been found by accident, humanity fell over them!
"Belief" is not a virtue. The reason why is present in your response.
Discovering something by accident is not wisdom. Discovering something by accident, becoming fascinated by it, studying it, and learning how it works and why, and using it to benefit others and make the world a better place, is wisdom. There are, you know, a lot of 'discoveries' that have been used to inflict pain and suffering: are such people 'wise'?
I don't mind what other people believe, in fact I usually acknowledge other people's faiths, religions, cultures etc. I can only think of one religion which I heartily criticise because it's every word or sentence seems like a 'sell' to me.
If someone "believes" something that is not true, and that "belief" empowers them to see/treat others in a way that dehumanizes them, it does not deserve respect. One can respect ones right to "believe" what they wish, but with that does not come accept what they "believe". This is precisely what Islam does: full of "believers" condemning others for not "believing" what they "believe" which puts them into a separate category: "unbeliever". This is the divisiveness of Islam, and Christianity before it. Here in Canada, the Liberals are running with the platform 'Diversity is Our Strength' because Islam is divisive.
But I've gotta tell you........ your thread and posts here seem like a 'sell' as well, only you seem like the folks that I sometimes see in our town squares, ranting and shouting as they wave their hands around......... I give them good distance as I walk past. :
It's actually the other way around: it is the religious institutions that are selling. They sell notions of perfect books, perfect men, perfect religions etc. and one need only "believe". In Islam, "belief" is a virtue, but in reality, it is the single-most degenerative thing a person can do (to "believe" something) because it requires no use of conscience: self science or inquiry. One need not make any effort to inquire regarding "belief" - you just "believe", and this "belief" carries on through ones life, which, becomes their own source of ignorance/suffering.
"Beliefs" can be (and often are) never actually grounded in reality, as is the case with Islam. It is anti-conscience.
Ah.... so you had trouble with that?
Lol nice projection: no, that would be you. If you don't understand how asking for a picture; objectification of a woman based on how she looks/appears is precisely the *problem* the hijab itself represents. And you ask for a picture of a woman! Lol
No it isn't, not for all Muslim women.
Around here, when a Muslim woman wears hijab it's usually because she feels more comfortable with it. We have good laws here to protect people from oppression etc, and many Muslim women are happy to just wear head scarves.
She feels more comfortable because she feels "protected" from misogynist men. That's the entire point of the hijab: if you're not wearing one, you are more likely to be raped than if you were wearing one. That is where the "comfort" comes from, but it is not a solution to anything. It is a consequence of another problem: that Muhammadan men who idolize (worship) Muhammad view women as sex objects, precisely in the same way Muhammad did. Muslims don't realize this because they have adopted an idolized version of Muhammad that is essentially the opposite of who/what he actually was: a perverse and sexually degenerated misogynist warlord.
Look..... you couldn't do it!
Many many women follow fashions in dress, make-up, footwear etc, just to be more attractive to others! The top womens magazines focus upon 'attraction' and they are the top mags because women buy them.
Who the f*ck cares what women do or don't do? If they want to appear more attractive to others, let them. If men can't handle their own sexual degeneracy and can't help but objectify women as sex objects, that is the problem of the man, not the woman. This backwards thinking is so prevalent in Islam it is unbelievable: blame the woman for a man getting too horny and raping her. This is f*cking disgusting and why Islam is a degenerative illness.
My wife's colleagues are mostly all in to 'attractiveness' and go as far as to have breast enhancements and botox treatments.
Who the f*ck cares what they do or don't do, you? What gives you the right to judge what women do or don't do with their body? This is again the degenerative patriarchy that is embedded in Islam - that women are property of men. It's disgusting.
You should research more in to who women are, what women want and what they strive for 'IN GENERAL' and that might help to relax your intensity over the subject of Gender Equality and more.
Honestly.
Lol "research more into who women are" what is this? I don't research women, I have relationships with them. I dated a Muslim woman for many years, and my experience with her and what she shared about her past (she was raped as a child) made it pretty explicitly clear that Islam is putrid toxic masculinity rooted in sexual degeneracy, which is precisely what Muhammad was. So the women of Islam have this deep resentment for men, but are taught to project this resentment outward as if its coming from somewhere outside of Islam, meanwhile the problem *is* Islam. That's how much of a sickness Islam is: suffer something, appropriate the cause/source as everyone/everything outside of Islam. That's why China declared it a mental illness: it absolutely is one.