the absence of nothingness

[`mud]

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve,
some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana, and aup would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure"

 

[Terry Sampson]

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve, some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

One must finally realize no such thing. A soup of dimensionless atoms of something material is not a soup of nothingness. A soup of nothingness is a fantasy, a chimaera, and nonsense. A soup of dimensionless moving atoms, on the other hand, is something substantial.

 

[BSM1]

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve,
some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana, and aup would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure"

I believe it's more oblivion rather than nothingness..

 

[ChristineM]

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve,
some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana, and aup would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure"

Is that nothingness without dimensions or with dimensions?

 

[`mud]

What's in the `soup`, except the Spirits of the others,
and these ingredients made all,
and on and on forever.

 

[`mud]

Christy,
Directionless, Dimensionless, and timeless.

 

[`mud]

Eternity within Infinity
Absence of Nothingness

 

[ChristineM]

Christy,
Directionless, Dimensionless, and timeless.

Chris will do...

Nothingness is a very strange concept that, like infinity, humans are not very well equipped to comprehend.

I like to think in terms of 2 nothings. The empty space of nothing, a volume with dimensions of complete vacuum through which subatomic particles (light etc) can pass. I believe this is the nothing most people imagine.

Then the more difficult to understand completely nothing, no dimensions, no quantum soup. No anything that humans can imagine, imagination itself implies something?

 

[Brickjectivity]

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve,
some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana, and aup would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure"

I'm putting that into google translate to see what happens when I translate it to Icelandic and back to English:
"You finally have to realize that there is no soup that we all dissolve,
some think it's the sky they've been craving, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana and monkeys would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure""

How do you like my re-translation, mud?

One must finally realize that nothingness is the soup in which we all dissolve,
some think that it's the heaven they've yearned, but it's just the broth.

We all return to Nirvana, and aup would probably say "On the Brahman waves of pleasure"

mud, I hope you're feeling great and are not posting some depressing stuff, but if not then I counter your argument with nothing is not nothing. How could it be?

 

[`mud]

This thread was based on something that I wrote here in 2016.
Answers were varied there as well. I have my copy o the post itself.

I'm really asking: "what happens when one gets to Heaven or Nirvana, or hell ?

How far is eternity within infinity, or how eternities exist ?

OH well...show me to my cloud !

 

[`mud]

In many ways, most people writing here,
have a 'heaven' in their minds.
How they think they're getting to it, is the problem.
Some have a 'Nirvana' in their minds,
and a lot of them believe in 'it'.
What price is the cost of the attainment,
and how does one know,
one gets there at all ?
~
Well.....I'll keep non-believing,
screw the 'cost', it's only a life gone.
Oh look there...a baby squirrel eating an orchid bloom,
Life to life....no Nirvanas.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

This thread was based on something that I wrote here in 2016.
Answers were varied there as well. I have my copy o the post itself.

I'm really asking: "what happens when one gets to Heaven or Nirvana, or hell ?

How far is eternity within infinity, or how eternities exist ?

OH well...show me to my cloud !

It is a really interesting thing that it seems so impossible, for almost all humans, to even conceive of the idea that after their life is over, there is -- for them -- quite literally nothing at all. And the interesting thing is that it's not because everything disappeared, but because the being that was you and could apprehend have, in fact, disappeared.

I don't find that unfathomable, for some reason. I keep trying to remember what I was doing in 1802, and find that I wasn't doing anything, there wasn't an 1802, and there wasn't a me to even wonder about it at all.

 

[`mud]

hey evangelic......
It's hard to get the message across isn't it....

like I've said....their is no eternity....death is infinite.
Spirits are forever. The Cosmic soup is full of them !

 

[gnostic]

It is a really interesting thing that it seems so impossible, for almost all humans, to even conceive of the idea that after their life is over, there is -- for them -- quite literally nothing at all.

Death and that life comes to inevitable end, is fact.

And we don’t if there is life after death or cycle of rebirth that a lot of religions talk about.

But for me, in the last 15 years of my life, they (eg resurrection, reincarnation, etc) do seem more fantasy than reality, invoked by the fear of death.

The only thing that exist after our death, are the memories of deceased, those with children and descendants some of our biological will live on in others (eg genes, DNA, chromosomes, etc), and lastly the dead body will exist for some times, breaking down.

Perhaps that a bleak picture, but that’s the real reality.

 

[Twilight Hue]

One must finally realize no such thing. A soup of dimensionless atoms of something material is not a soup of nothingness. A soup of nothingness is a fantasy, a chimaera, and nonsense. A soup of dimensionless moving atoms, on the other hand, is something substantial.

Tasty Atoms. What's not to love?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is that nothingness without dimensions or with dimensions?

Ah, reading things between the spaces. Even emptiness has form.

 

[ChristineM]

Ah, reading things between the spaces. Even emptiness has form.

If it is complete vacuum within dimensions, yes, its full of quantum stuff, photons etc.

 

[`mud]

Dimensions do not exist in a true vacuum,
where molecules can't exist, nor atoms !
A void can't exist either, nor a container !
Just imagining infinity, and the gods above !