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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Seeker of White Light, Oct 4, 2022.

  1. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    Please, in your own words.

    Why is my personal religious belief wrong?
     
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    I don't care to do so unless you try to impose your personal belief on me. Since that hasn't happened, I'd be more interested in playing some video game or taking a walk in the sun than spending time arguing with someone over their personal belief.
     
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    If it works for you, then fine, go for it. As long as you do no harm and treat others with decency, respect and inclusion, I'd say you'd done what was important and the rest is secondary.

    I don't actually know a lot about your 'religious belief' but I take it you're a theist. I'm not a theist because I think gods exist only as ideas, concepts, things imagined., and that's why you can't find them in the real world, the world external to the self, and also why there are so many versions of gods (and other supernatural beings). But right or wrong, in the greater scheme of things, that's not as important as paragraph 1.
     
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  4. Heyo

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    I can't because I don't know what exactly it is you do believe. But I can tell you why personal believes are usually wrong and how to spot why that might be so.
    Have you believed wrong things in he past? If so, how do you know you aren't wrong now?
    Do your believes collide with the most trustworthy believes we have today, i.e. settled scientifically derived knowledge?
     
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  5. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    My main belief is within Baha'i teaching now. So example science has their answers, personally i do not trust science 100%
     
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    Neither do scientists. Science is always assumed to be incomplete. But given any belief that wasn't derived scientifically, it is either still unknown or superseded by a scientifically derived belief.
     
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    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    Religion does not need scientific proof because it is belief and faith in a Deity.
     
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    Science is not about trust but demonstration when it comes to whether one ought to believe something or not.

    The closest I think you can come to trust in science is when talking about the best explanation for something which can't be 100% demonstrated. Such as what was there before the big bang? However, science never claims to know these answers, simply what seem to be the best or possible explanations.

    But you don't really put your trust into a plane being able to fly, but rather you have seen it demonstrated time after time, so there is no reason to assume that it can't fly.

    In regards to your own personal beliefs, I don't see any reason to tell you they are wrong unless you present an argument for it or are trying to impose some morality or rules derived from it, unto others.
     
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  9. Heyo

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    That would be among the "still unknown". But some religions also come with their own myths, e.g. creation myths. Those are mostly known to be false. The earth is not the head of a slain giant nor was it sneezed out by the Great Green Arkleseizure nor was it conjured from nothing by a magic spell.
     
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  10. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    I believe God created the earth
     
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  11. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I dunno why it apparently bothers you so much as to keep asking the same thing over and over and over throughout multiple OPs.

    I mean does it really matter ?

    My answer is I really don't care if your religion is right or wrong at the end of the day.
     
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    Bahai faith is a beautiful religion. Bahai faith is from God because it teaches that kindness, love, peace is very important.

    I believe in reincarnation, the Bahai do not believe in reincarnation. That is the reason I can not be Bahai
     
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    Your beliefs are apparently causing you to be obsessed with what you imagine other people are thinking about your beliefs.

    Truth be told, no one is thinking about your beliefs, but you. No one knows or cares what you believe until you announce them on a website designed to invite debate, and then bemoan the fact that someone may disagree.
     
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    OK, there we have a believe that is most probably wrong and I can explain why that is so.
    First a question: how do you think a god created the earth? Sneezing out, formed from a giants head (or similar matter) or conjured from nothing by a magic spell? Or something entirely different?
     
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    But don't science and religion answer different types of questions?
    Science doesn't claim to answer religious questions, but religion is constantly making factual claims within science's magisterium; claims that are easily demonstrated to be wrong. It's religion that's the trespasser.
    And, thus, an unsupported, mythology-based belief system, making unevidenced claims, many of which can be easily demonstrated false.
    And this would be an unevidenced belief, based on tradition and mythology.

    Q: By what mechanism did God create Earth?
     
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  16. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    I can't answer since I do not know how God create things, but I believe God did it. Notice the word believe...
     
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    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    Religion are a belief and faith not physical science
     
  18. Valjean

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    I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying it's largely unevidenced. It's truth value is roughly equal to the religions of the Vikings, Aztecs, ancient Greeks.
    Exactly! An unsupported belief. A belief system based on a mythology, not facts, reason or testing.
     
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  19. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    The "evidence" in religious advancement comes from within, by the practitionair get closer to being perfect in words, actions and thoughts. So no the evidence you as a science person looking for are different than a religious person look for evidence of truth
     
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    How then can you assume your believe to be right? There are a thousand other creation myths which have at least as much explanatory power. (Well, your believe has no explanation at all so is even worse off then a wrong explanation, yours isn't even wrong.)
     
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