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Student who intervened and confronted bully shot and killed.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Father Heathen, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Rival's Wife

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    But my grandpa taught me and I've been shooting since I was a little kid. What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Stanyon

    Stanyon WWMRD?

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    Mexico and Brazil are excellent examples of this.
     
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  3. Shadow Wolf

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    Then where is the gun violence in England and Japan?
     
  4. columbus

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    Yeah.
    Places where Christianity and guns don't mix.
    Tom
     
  5. Stanyon

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    You made a claim overall, you can't pick and choose. Mexico pretty much banned private ownership of just about anything and had one gun shop, now they are eying issuing citizens firearms for personal protection because they know they don't have the resources to combat violent crime, some areas are actually raising and training child militias to help fight against bandits and so on. Brazil has one of the highest murder rates in the world sometimes even surpassing warzones in the Middle East and their gun control is pretty strict.

    Also of interest is that grade school child in Mexico that shot up his school dressed up as his favourite video game character.
     
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    You actually think religion has anything to do with it?
     
  7. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Anti-Gunnophobes keep forgetting that in those days people owned their own firearms in that well regulated militia.
     
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    Weird, the gubment never gave me a gun, I had to fill out paperwork, show my I.D, pass a background check and pay for it all on my own.

    The 2a question was settled in 2008 in regards to private ownership.
     
  9. Father Heathen

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    That's the third world. Any first world examples?
     
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    You mean "can't we just exclude the countries that don't support the claim"?
     
  11. Father Heathen

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    Are you suggesting we arm children? How do we know whose good or bad in the moment? What about good guys who turn bad? Or good guys who might get mistaken for bad guys?

    Life isn't a G.I. Joe cartoon.
     
  12. Father Heathen

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    Not if you're comparing them to the U.S.
    Rampant corruption, instability, and poverty make a significant difference when it comes to crime and combatting it.
     
  13. Father Heathen

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    They were also muskets, not high caliber, high capacity semi-auto rifles.
     
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    Which were the same weapons pretty much every military of the day had.
     
  15. Father Heathen

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    If cars were designed to kill and could easily be carried and concealed, maybe not.
     
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    And very different from modern firearms.
     
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    let's put the blame directly to the shooter

    it was his choice to carry the weapon and use it

    decades ago....we had neighbors whose children would come to my house and play
    the years passed

    one of those boys grew up to be …...different
    and that difference brought him to a place of business
    where he robbed and then shot the guy behind the counter
    just cause he could

    he wasn't mine to raise
    he moved away and became someone …..different

    the difference?
    hard to say

    could there have been a pivotal moment?
    with no one there to counsel
    likely so

    children are lost when we aren't looking
    but hey
    that pivotal moment could happen when you stand right beside them

    after that.....the chain of events are set in motion

    do you think you can sort through it?...…...

    I think not
     
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    more recently.....someone that knows someone related the story....

    a front door gave way....intruders with masks entered
    one was shot dead quickly
    by the home owner
    alleged to have been a felon

    by law.....felons are not EVER to possess a firearm

    as the story unfolded it was considered
    could the intruders have known the record of the homeowner?
    and then reasoned he would not be armed
     
  19. Stanyon

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    It doesn't change the fact that the common U.S. citizen was just as well armed as standing militaries around the globe at that time and in many cases they were probably better armed in the sense that rifled muzzleloaders are far more accurate and deadlier at longer ranges.
    And this was at the time the 2a was written
     
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    again......local news....

    someone was attacked by another using a hammer as weapon
    the attacker was shot and killed by the victim
    who was not suppose to have a firearm
    a felon

    if you were living in a bad neighborhood?
    and life was risky at all times

    would then risk illegal conceal and carry?
     
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