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Student who intervened and confronted bully shot and killed.

Iymus

Active Member
Articles like these makes me think that too little information is worse than no information.
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Texas teen shot dead for defending classmate from bully days earlier, police say

The school faculty failed to prevent/stop bullying within it's walls. The bully's parents failed to raise their child properly. The gun owner failed to properly secure his firearm. A child is dead because he stood up and did the right thing.
Please let us agree the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with well armed good guys. Too bad there were not any well armed good guys around there in order to take down the homicidal armed bully.
 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Texas teen shot dead for defending classmate from bully days earlier, police say

The school faculty failed to prevent/stop bullying within it's walls. The bully's parents failed to raise their child properly. The gun owner failed to properly secure his firearm. A child is dead because he stood up and did the right thing.

That's really sad,you could change the gun to a knife which has become a problem in the UK,perhaps it's the mindset and culture of part of our societies that's the problem,jmo though.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
That's really sad,you could change the gun to a knife which has become a problem in the UK,perhaps it's the mindset and culture of part of our societies that's the problem,jmo though.

In America, there are as many guns as there are people. Gun-free zones in America are an open invitation for bad guys with guns to go unchallenged with gunning down unarmed people. When there are many well-armed American civilians around, the bad guy with the gun is promptly taken down.

 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
In America, there are as many guns as there are people. Gun-free zones in America are an open invitation for bad guys with guns to go unchallenged with gunning down unarmed people. When there are many well-armed American civilians around, the bad guy with the gun is promptly taken down.

So "well armed Americans" is the way to go iyo.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Let's not...., at least not in the sense you mean it. We're just going to have to disagree on this.

Like it or not, it's our American Constitutional Second Amendment legal right to have a well-armed citizenry.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
- The teen was not legally allowed to have a firearm
- The article stated that whoever enabled him to get his hands on the pistol will be vigorously prosecuted.

Would it be any different if he stole his parents car and ran someone over?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Please let us agree the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with well armed good guys. Too bad there were not any well armed good guys around there in order to take down the homicidal armed bully.

Would an armed person be able to quickly assess the situation quick enough to save the victim?

In other words, there very well could have been armed folks around, but a teen suddenly pulling out a gun and shooting someone is likely going to be too quick.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
False: A well regulated militia is not giving every homicidal maniac a gun.

Ammosexuals keep forgetting that part of the Seconds: Well Regulated.

"An armed society is a polite society. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. These words are perhaps some of the most important words ever written."

An armed society is a polite society | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

Well regulated means adult law-abiding American civilians can indeed exercise their Constitutional afforded Second Amendment right to be well-armed.

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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Would an armed person be able to quickly assess the situation quick enough to save the victim?

In other words, there very well could have been armed folks around, but a teen suddenly pulling out a gun and shooting someone is likely going to be too quick.

Please let's agree there are some circumstances where a well-armed citizenry would keep the body count down by way of promptly taking action against an armed gunman. Case in point, the West Freeway Church of Christ shooting that happened recently in White Settlement, Texas.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Setting aside the choice of weapon, I'd like to see
attention given to prevention of, & therapy for, bullies.
It's a problem not just with youth. They grow up to
continue such behavior. I've seen it in cops, who
pose a great danger to others.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Please let us agree the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with well armed good guys. Too bad there were not any well armed good guys around there in order to take down the homicidal armed bully.
Walk up to someone, draw a concealed gun, kill them, no amount of good guys with a gun is going to save this person. Your solution is too late. Working to reduce your chances of a heart attack didn't start when you have one, or starts today. Guns have to be looked at in a similar manner.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Please let's agree there are some circumstances where a well-armed citizenry would keep the body count down by way of promptly taking action against an armed gunman. Case in point, the West Freeway Church of Christ shooting that happened recently in White Settlement, Texas.

I can agree that this is sometimes true. It's why I suggest that those who carry should have training in non-lethal self defense, emt, and crisis response.

I am for gun rights, but well-regulated gun rights. An armed citizenry should be well trained in more than just the use of firearms.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Walk up to someone, draw a concealed gun, kill them, no amount of good guys with a gun is going to save this person. Your solution is too late. Working to reduce your chances of a heart attack didn't start when you have one, or starts today. Guns have to be looked at in a similar manner.

Of course, I reckon a well-armed citizenry isn't going to keep everyone safe from getting shot by a bad guy with a gun; however, I'd expect a well-armed citizenry to reduce the number of gun shooting massacres whereby more than just a few people are gunned down.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Of course, I reckon a well-armed citizenry isn't going to keep everyone safe from getting shot by a bad guy with a gun; however, I'd expect a well-armed citizenry to reduce the number of gun shooting massacres whereby more than just a few people are gunned down.
And yet that isn't working. We are a very well armed nation. We have a dire and tragic gun violence problem that no one should live with. But, places that have fewer guns and more restrictions on guns and gun ownership, they have fewer shootings. More stabbings, sure, but those don't kill or injure as many as a shootings often do. Your cowboy fantasy must remain as a fantasy because it just is not working in real life.
 
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