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Student who intervened and confronted bully shot and killed.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Father Heathen, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Father Heathen

    Father Heathen Veteran Member

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    What on earth are you babbling about?
     
  2. Shadow Wolf

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    And do you know many places banned publicly carrying firearms? And those that didn't, it was strongly advised against because it was generally taken as a sign of being a trouble maker. Those "Wild West?" Not so wild or gun crazy as popularily believed.
    And what is your idea of well armed?
     
  3. Stanyon

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    I'm well aware of the history, what does that have to do with the situation now?
     
  4. Father Heathen

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    Therefore?
     
  5. Father Heathen

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    What does this have to do with the OP?
     
  6. Shadow Wolf

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    That more and more and more and more guns has consistently and constantly failed to fix the problem, which was no where nearly as bad when we had restrictions and regulations, and enforced them. You simply cannot, afterall, put out a house fire with more fire.
     
  7. Valjean

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    No.You're forgetting the amendment's initial clause. It pertains to militias, not individuals. That's been the general and legal understanding till very recently.

    People tend to be impulsive. Wouldn't an armed populace transform ordinary altercations into gunfights? Wouldn't interventions by a well-armed citizenry result in frequent friendly fire deaths and injuries, as people start blazing away at every perceived malefactor? Wouldn't suicides soar if quick and easy means saturate society?
    Finally, consider history. Have firearms restrictions been tried in any other societies? What was the result?
     
  8. Mestemia

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    Of course not.
    You use gaso... no wait
    Kero...
    No, no that either...
    Etho...nope, wrong again....
    I do remember there was a liquid that actually puts out a fire.
    Unless that fire is on a liquid.
    Then it just spreads the fire.
    Old Age sucks.
     
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  9. Stanyon

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    You are not still going on about the old west are you? Very minimal populations, etc.
    We could do nationwide "stop and frisk" do you think that would work?

    And none of this has anything to do with the facts of the o.p.
    -a kid stole a gun and used it illegally
    - authorities are saying they will prosecute the owner of the pistol for not securing it properly
     
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    The fact that more guns and cowboys with them wouldn't have prevented this or saved this kid's life. And, yes, I agree very much the owner should be prosecuted as his negligence allowed for his handgun, basically, to be stolen to be used to commit murder. But people will still cry about "if i secure it I can't get to it when I need it." Boo hoo. A[nother] kid is dead because we are very relaxed on laws and enforcing them, and negligent when it comes to safety instruction and enforcement.
     
  11. Stanyon

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    You might want to read up on the laws currently on the books from the BATF site. Not sure what laws are relaxed in this case.
    -The kid stole a gun which is illegal
    -The kid committed murder which is illegal
    -The owner of the gun will be prosecuted because of this kids choice to steal a gun and kill with it.

    What laws are relaxed?
     
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    Reporting is a major one. Gun show loopholes, too many violent offenders allowed to carry, and safety.
     
  13. Mestemia

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    Source please.
     
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    What gun show loophole?
    I keep hearing about this, but no one has ever shown it exists.

    Ah, never mind.
    I found out what it is.
    It is a buzz word for anti gun people to complain about how the government decided that the government does not have to oversee every single gun purchase.
     
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    It was in the o.p., he was 15 so not legally able to buy or own a firearm.
     
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    That does not default to "he stole it".
     
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    Most likely he stole it from a parent or guardian or burglarized a house to get it , he didn't walk into a gun store and buy it.
     
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    The term is a misnomer, but it is fact private sellers, at a gun or otherwise, are not required to dry a background check. And it's not really defined when it goes from being a hobby to a business.
     
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