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Stop comparing Roy Moore to Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by sun rise, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. sun rise

    sun rise "Love pours forth from the heart of the universe."
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    This illustrates what the republican party and some so-called Christians have become today. This is from the conservative Washington Times (but I bet some are now calling them names for this). I used this source to note that it's believing Christians who are condemning this behavior.

    Stop comparing Roy Moore to Jesus Christ

    Stricken, smitten, and afflicted, the son of God died in agony while nailed to a tree. Pierced for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities, Jesus willingly offered himself as a spotless sacrifice to spare the world from its sins.

    Roy Moore won a political primary some 40 years after allegedly molesting a 14-year-old girl. There is no comparison.

    In fact, as a general rule, it seems almost heretical to compare anyone, let alone an imperfect politician, to the perfect savior. But that hasn’t stopped supporters of the Alabama Republican from comparing Moore’s struggling with allegations of pedophilia to the persecution of crucified Christ.
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    In an earlier interview with the Washington Examiner, Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler not only seemed to confirm Moore had a thing for younger women, he also compared those relationships to scripture.

    “Take the Bible. Zachariah and Elizabeth for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist,” Zeigler said choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. “Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.”

    Everyone from Stephen Colbert to Jake Tapper have piled on in a subsequent and swift inquisition. Obviously, Joseph and Mary never had sex to conceive Jesus, they point out, correctly citing the Virgin birth.

    A wall of separation between politicians and sacrilegious comparisons to Christ ought to exist. Such comparisons should be avoided at all cost. To do otherwise is neither politically safe nor spiritually right.
     
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  2. David1967

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    Agree.
     
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  3. Quetzal

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    I am happy this article exists! Supports my thought that religion should be obliterated from politics, period.
     
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  4. Subduction Zone

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    Some of them are comparing Moore to parents of Biblical figures. It appears that they are claiming the lessons of the Bibles say that if an overaged man pervs on underaged girls the result can be a saint or even a savior.
     
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    Note these seem to be the same people who are beside-themselves hysterical at the thought of transgender people using the same bathroom as underage girls.

    Curious, no?
     
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  6. Skwim

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    Of course, some Christians do claim it's possible that Jesus had brothers by Joseph and Mary.

    'According to the Synoptic Gospels, and particularly the Gospel of Mark, Jesus was once teaching a large crowd near the home of his own family, and when this came to their attention, his family went to see him and "they" (not specified) said that Jesus was "...out of his mind."

    Then he went home; and the crowd came together again, so that they could not even eat. When his family heard it, they went out to restrain him, for people were saying, ‘He has gone out of his mind.’
    — Mark 3:20–21 New Revised Standard Version.
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    Regarding "His family" and "they went out to restrain him." If it had only been Joseph and Mary, it's far more likely the two would be identified by their names, so the two references here imply more people in the family than Joseph and Mary, which would be his siblings.

    So, as distasteful as it may seem, it could very well be true that while Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter the two did have children other than Jesus.
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  7. Nakosis

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    Roy's going to win anyway so, might as well get used to it.

    Senator Moore.

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  8. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    The thread title reminds me of an old joke that I think has bern applied to more than one person:

    - What's the difference between Roy Moore and Jesus?
    - Jesus doesn't think he's Roy Moore.
     
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    It still "amazes" me how so many self-professed Christians there can still support Moore, and even Trump for that matter, with his track record of dishonesty under the law and his track-record of seeking out teens when he was in his 30's. Can anyone here imagine Jesus endorsing either one of these guys?
     
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  10. Skwim

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    Wouldn't that be a slap in the face of moral decency. Of course it is Alabama, so it is possible.

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    Well my son was arguing with me about the folks in Alabama being backward religious nuts.

    I was telling him that he didn't know that. You can't judge them like that just because they are mostly Republicans. There's probably plenty of decent, educated Republicans representing the great state of Alabama.

    Then most of them voted for Roy in the primaries. Had to admit to my son that Ol' Dad might have been wrong for once. :oops:
     
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    People sometimes want to go on topics scientifically that religion is nonsense se there is no god. But one only has to look at these situations and realize maybe the topic is true and they me us are all a bit confused about it not there is or is not that which is named God.
     
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    Could you maybe proofread and edit this, please?
     
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    Yes I simplified. Some have said that religion is a mental disorder. I would contend its becoming mentally ill not that it literally is a mental disorder that's confused. So was my smart phone btw
     
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    So, pedophiles who prey on underage girls are heros in your eyes? Interesting.
     
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    I'm surprise they can become heroes in anyone's eyes.
    I consider myself conservative in some respects. However, Roy is the kind of Bible thumping Republican I wanted to deny exists. Kind of hard to claim this caricature of a conservative is a strawman when such an individual actually exists. Not only exists but is supported by the majority of folks in an entire state. This totally altered my perception of the Republican party.
     
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    Thanks. I wasn't trying to be unfriendly, I really couldn't make out what you were trying to say.
     
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    Roy is precisely the type of theocrat the extremist Muslims his supporters hate for being theocrats are.


    And I say that as a life long conservative myself. I'd never support the Democrats, but the Repubs are making it really hard to support them, too, recently.
     
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