Still think Republicans aren't heading towards fascism?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Georgia Senate passes bill to discipline prosecutors​

By JEFF AMYMarch 2, 2023



ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia senators are backing a bill that would create a commission to discipline or remove prosecutors, which supporters say would provide a needed corrective for district attorneys who engage in misconduct.
The Senate voted 32-24 to pass Senate Bill 92 on Thursday, sending it to the House for more debate. The House is working on a similar bill, House Bill 231, which could be debated Monday.
Sen. Randy Robertson, the Cataula Republican sponsoring the bill, said it’s aimed at “somebody who says they can choose, not based on evidence, but on how they feel about their political leanings, who they can prosecute.”
Opponents, though, warn the commission could be used to void the will of voters or force prosecutors to pursue undesirable criminal charges.
Sen. Josh McLaurin, a Sandy Springs Democrat, said he has supported the concept at times, but fears the commission will be “twisted and turned into something else,” and that majority Republicans will “use a commission like this, potentially, to harass or put the fire under prosecutors of a certain party in certain urban areas that don’t align with what state government wants.”

Georgia Senate passes bill to discipline prosecutors

ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia senators are backing a bill that would create a commission to discipline or remove prosecutors, which supporters say would provide a needed corrective for district attorneys who engage in misconduct.

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There it was, on the front page of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: "Republicans demand oversight of prosecutors amid Trump probe." creating a new state board that could punish or oust District Attorneys. The legislation is backed by GOvernor Brian Kemp and Lt. Governor Burt Jones. That latter is hardly a surprise, as Jones has been notified that he is a potential target, and what better way to avoid prosecution than just legislate yourself a way to get rid of the prosecutors.

Why have a Judicial branch of government, after all, when the Legislative branch could just do it all.

 

[Revoltingest]

How do you think this is fascist?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

How do you think this is fascist?

When you disable the checks and balances between branches of government, you are moving towards centralized autocracy and forcible suppression of opposition -- both strong indicators of fascism.

 

[Revoltingest]

When you disable the checks and balances between branches of government, you are moving towards centralized autocracy and forcible suppression of opposition -- both strong indicators of fascism.

I don't see elimination of checks & balances here.
Granted, it's useful when prosecutors refuse to prosecute
people for crimes that shouldn't be crimes. But it's also
bad when they refuse to prosecute people for real crimes,
when they hide exculpating evidence from the defense,
when they bribe witnesses, etc, etc.

Prosecutors have too much unaccountable power...which
could also be seen as "fascist". They shouldn't be able
to treat criminal courts as their personal justice machine.

 

[Shaul]

More Republican bashing click bait. <Yawn>

Learn a new trick.

 

[LuisDantas]

Bashing the Republican trends is at this point essentially a civic duty, unfortunately.

The GOP has become what it has become. It is not defensible to pretend otherwise.

 

[Nakosis]

When you disable the checks and balances between branches of government, you are moving towards centralized autocracy and forcible suppression of opposition -- both strong indicators of fascism.

IMO, stupid but not fascist. Because if Democrats gain power in Georgia then this law could as easily be used against Republicans.
That's the dumb part. They are not thinking for the benefit of the state. They are thinking how to increase the immediate power of their party.

Fascism would require that the law have some provision that would prevent the opposing party of making use of it. Though still a bad idea because like you said it is giving the legislative branch more power. However this power is not party specific.

I think the smart legislator would appeal to the voter but IDK maybe the American voter is not that smart anymore. Thinking of short term benefits and not long term stability of the system. I suppose you can call it fascism if you want fascism to mean passing laws which in the short term increases your parties political power but I'd prefer a different term like "stupidity".

 

[Revoltingest]

Bashing the Republican trends is at this point essentially a civic duty, unfortunately.

But if the bashing is ubiquitous, & often without merit,
then legitimate criticism gets lost in the noise.

 

[Father Heathen]

More Republican bashing click bait. <Yawn>

Learn a new trick.

Those who are blindly devoted and uncritically loyal to politicians and political parties are moreso automatons than they are real people.

 

[LuisDantas]

But if the bashing is ubiquitous, & often without merit,
then legitimate criticism gets lost in the noise.

Indeed. But that line has been crossed ages ago - and by the Republicans.

For good and probably worse, we have to deal with reality as it presents itself now.

 

[Kenny]

I don't see elimination of checks & balances here.
Granted, it's useful when prosecutors refuse to prosecute
people for crimes that shouldn't be crimes. But it's also
bad when they refuse to prosecute people for real crimes,
when they hide exculpating evidence from the defense,
when they bribe witnesses, etc, etc.

Prosecutors have too much unaccountable power...which
could also be seen as "fascist". They shouldn't be able
to treat criminal courts as their personal justice machine.

I agree completely. The problem today is that there are now political prosecutors that aren't doing their jobs. They are actually letting criminals go.

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The three branches are still in operation even if legislation is enacted. The judicial system decides right from wrong. - but they need teeth to keep prosecutors in line with duty.

 

[Kenny]

Indeed. But that line has been crossed ages ago - and by the Republicans.

For good and probably worse, we have to deal with reality as it presents itself now.

It is always easier to point the finger than clean your own house. IMV

 

[F1fan]

I don't see elimination of checks & balances here.
Granted, it's useful when prosecutors refuse to prosecute
people for crimes that shouldn't be crimes. But it's also
bad when they refuse to prosecute people for real crimes,
when they hide exculpating evidence from the defense,
when they bribe witnesses, etc, etc.

Prosecutors have too much unaccountable power...which
could also be seen as "fascist". They shouldn't be able
to treat criminal courts as their personal justice machine.

Do you really think republicans are worried about prosecutors not going after crimes that shouldn't be crimes? What shouldn't be a crime, in your view, that the republicans are worried about? The legislature creates laws, so if they don't like that prosecutors are going after certain crimes then they should use their existing powers and eliminate them. As it is we are seeing republicans using their powers for anti-democratic aims, such as what this bill aims to do.

How would you feel if this bill succeeds, and the legislature uses its power to protect Trump? Do you think the crimes he is accused of should not be crimes, notably election fraud and intimidation of state officials?

 

[Revoltingest]

Indeed. But that line has been crossed ages ago - and by the Republicans.

For good and probably worse, we have to deal with reality as it presents itself now.

Do you side against Republicans & their every
policy, regardless of merit or agreement?

Ya know...we're allowed to pick & choose
policies we favor or oppose. We needn't
choose a side based solely on us-vs-them.

 

[F1fan]

It is always easier to point the finger than clean your own house. IMV

Oh the irony.

 

[Father Heathen]

It is always easier to point the finger than clean your own house. IMV

This wisdom gained from experience?

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree completely. The problem today is that there are now political prosecutors that aren't doing their jobs. They are actually letting criminals go.

They've long been engaging in that, & even more such mischief.
It appears that the left is only now focusing upon it because it
affects an issue dear to them. And so they leap to opposing
holding prosecutors accountable for ignoring laws & crimes.
It's a bigger & different problem from their current focus.

 

[PureX]

How do you think this is fascist?

"... forcible suppression of opposition ..." (from the definition of the term according to wiki)

 

[PureX]

In this instance it's an attempt at threatening and intimidating the prosecutors that are investigating the "Dear One".

That some prosecutors somewhere else didn't do their jobs as they're supposed to is not relevant to this particular event. Or to our defining it as an example of fascistic behavior.

 

[Twilight Hue]

More Republican bashing click bait. <Yawn>

Learn a new trick.

Of course.

Dosent negate the fact that Democrats still lead the pack with the states that have the least personal and economic freedoms in the entire country.