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Featured spirit of antichrist is in the world today

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by kjw47, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. Rick B

    Rick B Active Member
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    My experience with @kjw47 is that he refuses to directly engage texts or logical arguments that refute his cult's teaching. He denies, diverts, runs, hides, repeats the same garbage and starts over again. He is brainwashed and implacable.
     
  2. djhwoodwerks

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    So, for someone to think they know truth from the Bible before your 7 self appointed men, means they have a "haughty heart"?

    I guess you don't consider this statement to be of a "haughty heart"?

    *** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 11 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
    11 Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave

    And your god is just going to annihilate those beings he "created to live forever"?
     
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    djhwoodwerks Well-Known Member

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    But wait, don't all witnesses, all over the world, who claim to be the "true worshipers" of God all think the same way, believe the same things, act the same way, dress the same way, go to meetings at the same time, study the same material, all go door to door? Sounds like a bunch of robots to me!
     
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    This is where you are being deceived, it's not, "Babylon the great= worldwide false "RELIGIONS", it's worldwide "RELIGION".

    Your "real teachers" think they're slick and have deceived every rank and file witness. You see, they get by with the claim of "33,000 religions" that doesn't include the witnesses because they claim to be God's earthly "ORGANIZATION", but it is still a religion, still part of Christendom and there are 33,001 religions!

    Matthew 12:25-28 (ESV Strong's) 25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26 And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

    If you read that verse in context with the rest, you will see Jesus wasn't talking about everyone thinking the exact same way, He's talking about people turning against themselves, just like witnesses do, they cast their own people out.
     
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    If your "real teachers" are the ONLY ones that have the "truth", there shouldn't be any errors!

    Again, you avoid the question being asked with nonsense. Just answer the question please,

    Why would God send a "spirit creature" to a DIRT grave?
     
  6. savagewind

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    I would like to know if @kjw47 believes that the Stock Market isn't of the World or if he believes the
    Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses does not partake of it.
     
  7. savagewind

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    I do not know how people can be so stupid.

    If the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses make money in the stock market they are
    1. Friends of the World and
    2. A part of the World.

    They say they are not so..................OMG............could they be lying?

    Revelation 21:8
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    "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

    Proverbs 12:22
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    Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD, But those who deal faithfully are His delight.

    John 8:44
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    "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

    12 Bible verses about Liars
     
  8. djhwoodwerks

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    They just have a different set of standards, rules and reasoning's for themselves! Just like kjw47 admits, his "real teachers" make ERRORS, but since they correct them, it's ok that his "real teachers" make ERRORS. But, for everyone else it's this,

    *** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
    "All" error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God.(emphasis mine)

    His "real teachers" teach that "ALL" error is of the devil, except for theirs.
     
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    Again,

    *** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
    All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God.

    There's no way around it, your teachers are lead by satan too, because they make ERRORS!
     
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    kjw47, please address this post of mine! You're always saying what your "real teachers" teach are 100% FACT, what about the above FACTS?
     
  11. savagewind

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    Really? Think again! I am a governing body member. I am one of the 144,000. Is it not what they say? Is it not true that all governing body members have professed to being one of the 144,000?
    If I believed I was one of the 144,000 I would need to think that I am standing strong. How so? Just read it!

    I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, Revelation 7:4

    There before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. Revelation 14:1-5

    You say, "no JW ever thinks they [sic] are standing strong." Are the governing members Jehovah's Witnesses?
     
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    It is not possible to be one of the 144,000 and not be standing strong. Honest to God!
     
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    How is it that any of the144,000 does not know that he stands strong for Jehovah?
     
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    You are correct. I choose to believe the GB( Luke 10:16)--They have proved with 0 doubt, that truth is exactly what they want by making corrections to bad teachings. Both their own and 1750 years of others. And they make sure--year after year that every utterance from God is gone over, and over--How else can one apply this super important truth from Jesus if they don't do exactly that?----- Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. --- Jesus didn't say--if we want to bother. He was saying we must do that. He meant it-He meant every teaching.
     
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    Judas was one--He fell. Satan attacks Jesus seed relentlessly. Its his #1 job.
    In the ot, Solomon fell at the end to false god worship--Gods elite spiritual king--None should think they are standing strong. All need improvements in many areas. Many know how simple it is to fall. The hard part is standing, in this satan ruled system of things. If one does fall, they should get back up as quickly as possible.
     
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    Trinity religions teach Jesus is God--- So then, how do they explain that God has a God?
     
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    I back my words with scripture. The bible has one truth. Your versions are filled with errors. Catholicism is responsible for the errors in your translations. All who follow trinitarianism, put their eternal lives on Catholicism translating. They brought in statues, icons, graven images. All condemned in the OT. They called it the dark ages for a reason. Their translating followed Catholicism council dogmas( untruths) as well as the pagan additives off the table of demons associated with Christmas and Easter. I believe 100% its not a wise path to walk trusting in catholicism translating. Facts prove their errors.
     
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    The warning has been in the bible for all to learn and know--Few bother. It isn't Gods fault its their own fault. 100% fact= All who actually love God and his son, applied what Jesus taught--every teaching he gave--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God= OT-NT--over and over. Few can be bothered. Some blind guide assured them--you are saved or born again. He does not know.
     
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    A mark of the true religion--1Corinthians 1:10--unity of thought, no division. A worldwide brotherhood, unified in LOVE, PEACE, and UNITY. no matter what country or skin color. That is how to become one with God and his son--By living now to do the will of Jesus' Fathers over our own will. Matt 7:21)
    Not robots because each individual chooses with their own free will to follow Jesus, robots can not do that.
     
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    He sent a dead mortal to the grave.
     
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