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Featured So, where are the testaments of Satan??

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Nowhere Man, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Are there any ancient scrolls, clay tablets,or testaments that are said to be existing from the same time frame of ancient Christianity that focuses solely on God's adversary, whether that be Satan or Lucifer, or what other name may apply? We know there are snippets about Satan and Lucifer in the biblical accounts.

    We do know from time to time, other characters have their own accounts like the book of Judas, Book of Lilith etc. Primarily from the Apocrypha.

    Where is Satan's or Lucifer's side of the story taken from that era? Are there any ancient writings in existence?

    I think anything like that would make an interesting read that would round out Christian mythology as opposed to just one-sided allegories and stories.
     
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    Since he is said to be the Father of lies, the evil one. His motives probably aren't so good and he would rather keep them hidden. So you wouldnt find any testaments
     
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    There would be testaments, but angels would destroy them.
     
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    RedDragon94 Lectio Divina

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    Nag Hammadi Scriptures & the Gnostic Bible. And if you want to buy into the deceptions that's your choice.
     
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    Anything that's opposite of good, is Satan's testament. Of who he is.
     
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    God couldn't have an opponent. Satan obviously doesn't exist so there are no testaments.
     
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    Who's to say Jehovah isn't the one being deceptive? He does, after all, commit and command acts of grievous violence and genocide and he has the gall to call himself, loving, merciful, and benevolent.
    In Judaism, no, but in Christianity he was reinvented to become god's adversary.
     
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    Satan doesn't actually exist as an entity. Satan is our own lower nature.
     
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    Have you read the Quran?
     
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    So I guess the old saying, "the devil made me do it" doesn't work for you.:D
     
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    What makes it "lower?"
     
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    You forget that the land originally belonged to Abraham and his children. It wasn't a cleansing, it was a reclaiming of the land.

    God's not obligated to be merciful to the rebellious.
     
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    Actually I'm finding that less and less true.

    It seems there is an existing ancient (codex) testament of the devil, I'm assuming, around the time of the conception of the Holy Bible as it contains some of its writings.

    Codex Gigas (the Devil’s Bible) - the largest manuscript in the world
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    There are passages in the Bible that speaks of Satan as being an actual entity.

    Like the biblical quotes along the lines that Satan is the father of the lie, and a murderer from the start for example.
     
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    I guess if you believe the devil looks like this you might believe it is the actual testimony of the devil.

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    There are so many examples in the Bible, and ran with a pretty good example of why Jehovah does not deserve to be called benevolent, loving, and merciful. Not even cattle or the unborn are safe from his wraith. Yet, what did Satan do? He's not even the one who drown the world.
     
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    I have; I have also read:

    https://www.amazon.ca/Syro-Aramaic-...15295359&sr=8-1&keywords=syro-aramaic+reading
    https://www.amazon.ca/Mohammeds-Kor...d=1515295378&sr=1-1&keywords=why+muslims+kill
    https://www.amazon.ca/Challenge-Isl...&qid=1515295395&sr=1-1&keywords=gunter+luling
    https://www.amazon.ca/Original-Sources-Quran-Clair-Tisdall/dp/1110537778/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1515295417&sr=1-1&keywords=original+sources+of+qur'an
    https://www.amazon.ca/Hagarism-Maki...=UTF8&qid=1515295510&sr=1-1&keywords=hagarism
    https://www.amazon.ca/Life-Muhammad...d=1515295532&sr=1-1&keywords=life+of+muhammad

    I also have a number of PDF files titled:

    A CHRISTIAN QUR’ĀN?
    A STUDY IN THE SYRIAC BACKGROUND TO THE
    LANGUAGE OF THE QUR’ĀN AS PRESENTED IN THE
    WORK OF CHRISTOPH LUXENBERG
    Daniel King, Cardiff University ([email protected])

    THE QUR’AN IN ITS HISTORICAL
    CONTEXT
    Gabriel Said Reynolds

    In summation: the Qur'an is a collection of (what was formerly) Christian-inspired apocryphal texts which were originally written in Syriac and "translated" into Arabic. It borrowed heavily from Judaism/Christianity.

    The earlier Mecca half of the Qur'an is what Muhammad used to recruit only ~150 people - the "peaceful" passages. The later Medina passages make use of "political" Islam where one finds all of the violent passages which abrogate the earlier peaceful ones.

    It is a system - upon entering a non-Muslim nation, the Mecca passages apply. Once Islam establishes a stronghold, the Medina passages apply. Islam is designed to consume a nation from within utilizing various non-military forms of jihad including: social, economic, immigration-based, political etc. until the non-Muslim is "subdued"and eventually eradicated.

    The Qur'an is a historical book, Muhammad was a caravan-raiding sex-addicted warlord who gifted his army generals with sex slaves as a reward for fighting in the "cause of Allah". It is a sick book, compiled by a sick man, and followed by sick people. Over 270 000 000 non-Muslims are dead as a result of jihad and Islam is the source of much of the human suffering on the planet.

    The recent purge in Saudi Arabia of sex trafficking (and even more recently Egypt) is all based on Islamic doctrines of making money from sex slavery - a source of income Muhammad made use of.

    Islam is no religion of peace - it is a religion of the baseness of man's carnal desires. Women are not allowed to refuse their husband sex unless ill or menstruating. Their testimony is worth only half that of a man. It is lawful to beat women etc.

    That is why Al-Quran is a Satanic doctrine.
     
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    Moses told the Israelites they could keep women of the cities they raided as part of the plunder. So, by your process, even the Bible is "Satanic."
    But Satanism forbids unwanted sexual advances. Rape and slavery are explicitly prohibited, and not once condoned or permitted or reaffirmed. Rule-for-rule, practice-for-practice, Satan is far more peaceful, moral, and pro-social than any of the Abrahamic religions.
     
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