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Featured So What Happened To All The Changes, Tribulations, And Woe Jesus Had Promised?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. Trailblazer

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    I am not confused at all. A man does not have to be infallible to write a book that contains accurate information. Does a scientist have to be infallible to write a book with accurate facts about a scientific subject?

    Only Manifestations of God are infallible because they perfectly reveal the Will of God. Other fallible people write books and some of them are accurate, others are not. It is our job to determine for ourselves which books are accurate IF we want to know.
     
  2. Muffled

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    I believe I have said this many times and that you are a witness to my posts. I believe "this generation" refers to those who have seen the sign of Jesus. I believe that sign came in 1974 and a 70 year generation ends in 2044. We still have a ways to go yet.
     
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    I believe it would be anything after verse 22.
     
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    I believe I agree that the statement about the end places it out of the timeline of the listeners unless they are here now by reincarnation.
     
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    Apparently you do not understand the meaning of "Please be specific".
    Answering "All of it" just shows you cannot dispute what I quoted from YOUR KJV.
     
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    How sad to live in constant fear. But that's your choice.
     
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    According to your comments, you are living as you do because you fear your God.

    There are children all over this world who live with a parent they fear rather than love. The good thing is that by the time they reach 18 or so, they will have the option of leaving such a horrible environment. You, on the other hand, seem that you want to be stuck in that environment forever.
     
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    No. You shared your words. You were not quoting from the Bible. You were proselytizing.

    For all to see.
    Post #156
     
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    Please show, specifically, what scripture I took out of context.

    spe·cif·i·cal·ly
    /spəˈsifək(ə)lē/

    adverb
    1.
    in a way that is exact and clear; precisely.​
     
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    Do you not understand the word "troubled"?
     
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    Apologetics nonsense. "Thou Shalt" is a command. "Thou Shalt" coming from an Angel is an edict, not a request. "Thou Shalt" coming from an Angel who is a messenger from God is a command, not a request.

    It is a command just as when a 30-year-old rapist tells a ten-year-old girl "You Will Spread Your Legs"!
     
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    The young girls who were under the thumb of Jeffery Epstein also hoped Jeffery Epstein would look after them. Every prostitute that has a pimp believes he will take care of them. Power is everything. Godly power is overwhelming, especially to a young female.

    You are a follower of God. If "an angel" approached your daughter and said 'come with me, there is a powerful entity that wants to impregnate you', would you let her go?
     
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    I didn't add anything to the scriptures. I quoted them from BibleHub. If you cannot see that a child was overwhelmed by a very powerful entity, that is your choice. If you do not understand that rape is an act of a powerful person over a defenseless person, that is your choice. That shows that you are OK with what people like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffery Epstein do.

    Where does the shame belong?
     
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    I know what rape is and I don't excuse it. The only saving grace here is that the entire story is just that, a story. No one named Mary was actually raped and impregnated.

    However, the story is very reflective of the mindset of the misogynistic men who wrote the stories. It is also reflective of the mindset of those who would try to justify it.
     
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    Just how do you interpret God punishing Adam & Eve for the fruit incident?
    How is that not indicative of sin? And since it was the first incident of sin, it is original sin.

    Besides, it isn't about Jews and Muslims and Christians. It is about a book that, I thought, Bahais treated as holy scripture. If Bahais don't consider it holy scripture, why do you bother interpreting it at all? Why even bother commenting on it?
     
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    Ridiculous. Are you now alleging that Muhamed did not write down the Koran in his own pen? Are you now alleging Moses did not write down Genesis?

    Maybe you, and the other Bahais in this forum, need to write down exactly what is "truth" and what is not.

    How can you say Jesus was infallible if you know nothing about him other than what some very fallible people allegedly wrote about him? How do you justify any belief that Jesus even existed at all?
     
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    Well that is not true. All your posts have been asswered section by section and scripture by scripture showing you why you do not understand Gods Word but you do not believe God's Word because you do not know God. What is it that you claim I have not been specific about? If you cannot tell me it is because you have no response to the posts and scriptures shared with you that show why you are in error and do not know God's Word.
     
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    Well this is a funny post. I do not live in fear because I believe and follow God's Word :)

    Isaiah 26:3 You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on you: because he trusts in you.

    Isaiah 57:20-21 [20], But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. [21], There is no peace, said my God, to the wicked.

    Do you have peace in your life? I do :)
     
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    Not at all. I live as I do because I know and love God. No one who believes and follows God's Word has to fear God. According to the scriptures it is only those who refuse God's invitation to believe and follow His Word that need to fear God. You are free to believe as you wish. We all stand before God come judgment day :)
     
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    Here let me post the context of the convesation here for all to see....

    This is the response given here...

    YawwwnZZzz :) .......... Not really your leaving out context again. It was because of God's mercy that he put an end to the cruelties of all those who were practicing cruelty in the time of the flood because they were practicing evil and cruelty against each other...

    Genesis 6:5-7
    5, And GOD SAW THAT THE WICKEDNESS OF MAN WAS GREAT IN THE EARTH, AND THAT EVERY IMAGINATION OF HIS HEART WAS ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY.
    6, And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
    7, And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repents me that I have made them.

    They did not listen and did not obey God's Word. Nothing has changed today. God is warning all mankind because he is not willing that anyone should perish but that all should come to repentance and be saved *2 Peter 3:9-13. Those who do not listen to God's warnings today, just like the those before the flood and those of Sodom and Gommorah of yesterday will reap the consequnces of their own actions. God is not willing that any should perish and is a God of mercy to all those who believe and follow his Word but to all those who deny Gods' Word our God will be a fiery furnace with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved and for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. It doesn't have to be that way though. We all choose our path and who we follow.

    You really do not understand God's Word now do you..

    Yep gotta love a God of mercy

    ...........

    The above is only scripture or paraphrased scripture that disagrees with your words which are not Gods' Word because you do not understand Gods' Word because you do not know God. So your claims unfounded.

    Your welcome :)
     
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