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Should we be disrespectful towards the Bible?

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful *Staff Edit* I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. *Staff Edit* And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE. *Staff Edit* Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book. *Staff Edit*

Next time Mr. *Staff Edit* is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful *Staff Edit* I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. I will never do that again. *Staff Edit* And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE. *STAFF Edit* Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book.

Next time Mr. *Staff Edit* is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?
Is there some reason why anyone else should know how you feel about the Bible or religion? I mean if the didn't specifically ask.
 
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beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful cholo I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. I will never do that again. SCREW the Bible as a religious text and a way of life. It is a screwed up book. And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE! SCREW the Bible. Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book. So screw your book.

Next time Mr. Cholo is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?
Oh, is he trying to stone you to death? Is he preaching at you all day every day?

There was no reason to be talking of religion in the first place, and there doesn't seem to be any reason for you to clash over it in order to do your job.

I suggest not bringing it up again, and let it go.

Do you want him or someone else attack you for YOUR beliefs that THEY see as silly or offensive?

Well, that's my take.
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
Is there some reason why anyone else should know how you feel about the Bible or religion? I mean if the didn't specifically ask.
At work I do keep my religious thoughts to myself mostly. Most people will be surprised to see my library if they come over to my pad.
But Christianity is often brought up in my culture here in America. Especially within the family but even at work and when I was in school it was just expected you casually accept Christianity being forced down your throat.
Christian thought and Christian God is often brought up as a matter of fact in day to day conversation in my town.
I would be content not to talk about the Bible in public. But often times it is the Christians, who dominate our culture, who are bringing it up and expect it to be respected when they do.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella.

Leave it be there is no point unless he starts stoning you or giving you **** because you're gay. You don't need to disrespect a believer because they've been indoctrinated even if the bible is a horror book, its not his fault.

But maybe ask him what he thinks of Leviticus 20:13. Chances are he hasn't read it and doesn't know what is written. Anyway, you work with him, you don't need the aggravation of an irate fellow employee.
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
Anyway, you work with him, you don't need the aggravation of an irate fellow employee.
Yeaaa, I try to be the positive peace maker at work. Try to get people smiling and stuff because in the restaurant industry, everyone might hate their jobs so we gotta keep each other "out of the dark hole" as we call it i.e. existential crisis's at work.

Dismantling a fellow employee's preciously held religious beliefs would not serve towards that purpose...
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
It's not about respecting a book or respecting beliefs. It's about behaving civilly toward a fellow person. Calling someone's god a crazy psycho without any solicitation is simply rude and offensive.

Unless he was actively throwing stones at you, I think the apology for offending him was the right thing to do.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful cholo I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. I will never do that again. SCREW the Bible as a religious text and a way of life. It is a screwed up book. And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE! SCREW the Bible. Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book. So screw your book.

Next time Mr. Cholo is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?

Let me be the voice of dissent.
I 100% support you saying what you did. As long as you don't insist on pressing the point out of nowhere, there is no problem at all.
 

Balthazzar

Christian Evolutionist
I've noticed over the last 20 years or so that similar attitudes are shared by more than just a few people. It's common place anymore and I'm sure warranted enough to be so prevalent. While I may disagree with the overt hostility towards a history book because of the era and way things were handled then, I understand the hostility enough to get hostile over other things associated with.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
At work I do keep my religious thoughts to myself mostly. Most people will be surprised to see my library if they come over to my pad.
But Christianity is often brought up in my culture here in America. Especially within the family but even at work and when I was in school it was just expected you casually accept Christianity being forced down your throat.
Christian thought and Christian God is often brought up as a matter of fact in day to day conversation in my town.
I would be content not to talk about the Bible in public. But often times it is the Christians, who dominate our culture, who are bringing it up and expect it to be respected when they do.
Try taking the high road. Besides, "do unto others..." isn't a Christian only decree. It's across the board for all theological thought. IOW, just good, solid morality for all. Namaste.
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
Let me be the voice of dissent.
I 100% support you saying what you did. As long as you don't insist on pressing the point out of nowhere, there is no problem at all.
Yea it was just casual conversation ya know. We are stuck with each other for like eight hours for three days a weekend so we have to talk... Especially since they took our music away. Now I know religion is not a topic to bring up. With some coworkers, I can talk chop about religion and spirituality, to my delight.

I don't think we should normalize or condone toxic beliefs, such as Christianity, even if it is already normalized.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful cholo I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. I will never do that again. SCREW the Bible as a religious text and a way of life. It is a screwed up book. And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE! SCREW the Bible. Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book. So screw your book.

Next time Mr. Cholo is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?

You do you.
For me, I usually don't talk politics or religion at work.
It is usually better to keep a semi-friendly work environment.
Although you ought to be free to speak your mind, some folks get offended by your opinion which could jeopardize your employment.
It's not that hard for folks to talk behind your back and get you in trouble with management.
And management would usually prefer to deal with the issue the easiest way possible, which may mean getting rid of you, than support your right of free speech.
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
You do you.
For me, I usually don't talk politics or religion at work.
It is usually better to keep a semi-friendly work environment.
Although you ought to be free to speak your mind, some folks get offended by your opinion which could jeopardize your employment.
It's not that hard for folks to talk behind your back and get you in trouble with management.
And management would usually prefer to deal with the issue the easiest way possible, which may mean getting rid of you, than support your right of free speech.
I be in one of those "right to work" states too...

They don't like firing people, like, if they actually fired people for fireable offenses, they would have hardly any employees. Im not exaggerating. but every once in a while it's like the bosses like to remind us they can fire us and one of us gets sent to the chopping block.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
At work this week, I was telling a fellow dishwasher I'm not a Christian because the God of the Bible is "crazy psycho" in my opinion. This guy caught me off guard by getting a bit offended and defensive. This chap is the most disrespectful cholo I have ever met, a real sore to work with because he is so negative. But he came to the Bible's defense, saying he "would never disrespect the Bible". Said his family was Christian/Catholic. I said "that's cool" and apologized if I offended him and we went on with our work.

That was just a habitual, taught, reaction. You are taught to "respect" someone's religion. And I was a Christian for the longest time, I expected that people don't clown on me for my Christianity.

But I thought about it later that day, how I apologized and stuff. I will never do that again. SCREW the Bible as a religious text and a way of life. It is a screwed up book. And people believe it literally came from God Himself.

I am a gay man with a boyfriend. I have to keep the most important part of my life a secret from my family and the public in general because of the BIBLE! SCREW the Bible. Leviticus 20:13 literally says I should be STONED to DEATH!

That's just one teensy eensy aspect of the Bible that is messed up. And people think we should "respect" it?

I have become determined to be unabashed in my distaste for Christianity and the Bible in my conversations. Screw that respect crap. Your book says I should be killed. At the very least, you think I'm wrong for being gay because of your holy book. So screw your book.

Next time Mr. Cholo is annoying me with his negativity I am going to bring him to town and disrespect the Bible hella. He hasn't read it. He respects it because his mama and pastor told him to? What a baby. Give me a break... I'm gonna clown on him so hard for being a Bible believer. Trust me, this chap has it coming, I hate working with him. Now I know how I can get to him hee hee.

What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?
He obviously isn't much into Catholic theology because what he said was the antithesis of what the Church teaches as it is not up to us to judge other people.
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
Try taking the high road. Besides, "do unto others..." isn't a Christian only decree. It's across the board for all theological thought. IOW, just good, solid morality for all. Namaste.
What if the high road is speaking up for what I believe is right?

If I held toxic beliefs, and lived my life by it, I'd want someone to point it out.

Though I have to accept I don't have a monopoly on truth, I can argue that a book that calls for my death is bad. I should be able to freely tell my associates that their precious book calls for my death so perhaps they should look into their book more deeply. Is that not the high ground?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
At work I do keep my religious thoughts to myself mostly. Most people will be surprised to see my library if they come over to my pad.
But Christianity is often brought up in my culture here in America. Especially within the family but even at work and when I was in school it was just expected you casually accept Christianity being forced down your throat.
Christian thought and Christian God is often brought up as a matter of fact in day to day conversation in my town.
I would be content not to talk about the Bible in public. But often times it is the Christians, who dominate our culture, who are bringing it up and expect it to be respected when they do.
Seems all the more reason to avoid talking about it, to me. :)
 

an anarchist

Your local anarchist.
Seems all the more reason to avoid talking about it, to me. :)
Hmmm.... Nah I disagree.

A belief system that demonizes me because I am gay I should not speak out against because everyone else supports the belief system? Am I understanding you right?
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
What if the high road is speaking up for what I believe is right?

If I held toxic beliefs, and lived my life by it, I'd want someone to point it out.

Though I have to accept I don't have a monopoly on truth, I can argue that a book that calls for my death is bad. I should be able to freely tell my associates that their precious book calls for my death so perhaps they should look into their book more deeply. Is that not the high ground?
But if you're truly going by Leviticus 20, being gay is a ways down the list for stoning. [Wink] Besides, speaking up for what you think is right isn't nearly as powerful as just living as you think is right. Why "hide"? You don't need to announce your business to the world, and you surely don't need to flaunt it. Let people think/believe what they like, and just you be an example of genuine and kind.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
What do you guys think about "respecting" other people's beliefs when their beliefs say you should be stoned to death? Isn't that asking a lot of me?
Their beliefs or their scripture?

I am a Jew. I have participated in weekly Torah study for many years and with many, many fellow Jews. I do not know of a single one who would think that you should be stoned. On the contrary, many of these fellow Jews belong to one of many, many LGBTQ+ friendly synagogues.

Your statement reflects an ignorance infused disrespect that manages to manifest itself as little more than crude bigotry.
 
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