Saudi school lessons in UK concern government

Darkness, what if such statements were taught to Muslim children in a private school: "...adultery is a crime and it deserves a legal penalty." or such one "According to Islamic Shari'a, adultery is a crime so as homosexual sex and the legal penalties for them is this and that including execution"? Should people be jailed for this?

 

But European women are not harassed and assaulted in their own countries by the natives?

 

I would not jail them, but I would revoke their teaching privileges. They might face some fines and/or penalties. And if the school was known to encourage this sort of teaching, I would have it closed down and taken over by the state authorities. Education is the domain of the state and schools are teaching our children on behalf of the state. They have no right spreading their own backwards, bigoted beliefs.

 

What's this right way?

 

So what is the missing context?

 

Oh, if it is concerning the Jews then there is a context indeed.

 

Not with the pretense of religious and cultural justification and not on such a scale. Also, two wrongs don't make a right so it's beside the point. The point is that people shouldn't immigrate to a country if they cannot respect the local culture. Instead of integrating they try to impose their own culture through violence and intimidation.

 

Teaching something to children from an objective standpoint - and encouraging children to actually adopt and practice something - are two very different things.

 

What justification they usually use?

Ok, anyway I don't see how this is relevant. When anyone breaks the law whether immigrant or native, it must be punished....

 

I don't believe they use any - the typical violent thug doesn't pretend to be righteous or justified in their crimes.

Well, the article gave the impression that the school was encouraging children to carry out discrimination and even violence against homosexuals, Jews and other perceived enemies of Islam. Also, why should someone be punished for something that isn't a crime at their location?

 

Ok, I see and I don't disagree. I think what these children were taught is no different from the example I gave you. I live in a country where the hudood penalties are not applied. I have learned about it in school, then I did my own research on these issues. The majority of Muslims believe in the penalties prescribed in Islam yet they don't carry out the penalties by themselves because there is a legal system; a legal system of the Islamic state. Even if the current legal system doesn't adopt them, they know that it's not their job. We all read about the Islamic prescribed penalties for a variety of crimes and it's really foolishness to even assume that it's a call to carry out them away from the legal system.

 

This includes the immigrant criminals, right?

It was the expression of the Islamic law view regardless of the location. It should be punished means when Islamic Shari'a becomes the ruling constitution of the country. All the time I say adultery when witnessed should be punished although there is no actual penalty for adultery in my country. The theoretical teachings are a thing and the attempt to implement them is a different thing. There are aspect where I can implement individually like the different acts of worship and the good manners... etc. and there are things that need an Islamic state and government to be implemented; the penalties are one of them, like any other country.

 

Actually I think that Muslims who teach these things to children should be charged with child abuse and perhaps Crimes against humanity - but that's just me.

We can only hope that no country becomes so irrational as to fully adopt Sharia law.

 

Well, fair's fair. If it's okay to teach that gay people should be killed, it's equally acceptable to teach that Muslims should be killed. I don't care what you decide as long as the same standard applies across the board.

 

Nothing is outside the jurisdiction of the state.It has never been found necessary to check the children's reading matter before.
Teaching hate has always been illegal. now we will have have to start policing what children are taught, because of this Muslim mind set.
The application of sharia Law is illegal in the UK. Only British law is legal.

I rather doubt we would be allowed to teach Christian dogma to children in Saudi Arabia. ( and that would be teaching only love)