Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
RF Thread (That Building is Really Tall)
Original Poster: Look at the building over there. It's really tall.
Responder: What building? I don't see a building.
OP: Over there, on that hill. You don't see that building on that hill?
R: I see a tree, but no building.
OP: That's a building.
R: The tree is a building?
OP: What you're calling a tree is a building.
R: But that's not a building, it's a tree.
OP: What makes it a tree?
R: Well, it has a trunk, branches, and leaves.
OP: Not all trees have leaves. Some have needles.
R: Right, but some have leaves - like the one on the hill does. But it's irrelevant, as it doesn't matter that other trees have needles. That has leaves. That is a tree.
OP: You know, other plants besides trees have leaves. Bushes have leaves too.
R: Are you saying that it's a bush?
OP: No, I'm saying it's a building.
R: Then why did you bring up the fact that bushes have leaves?
OP: You're the one who brought up leaves. Just because it has leaves doesn't mean it's a tree.
R: Right, but buildings don't have leaves either. That thing on the hill has leaves. You see that it has leaves, right?
OP: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't be a building.
R: Well, actually it does. Buildings don't have leaves.
OP: What's the definition of a building?
R: It's generally a fixed structure that's built for a use such as a dwelling.
OP: Right, that over there is a fixed structure that birds and squirrels dwell in. It's a building.
R: A building generally has walls and a roof.
OP: The tree is made of cells that have walls, and the leaves are called a canopy, which is a type of roof.
R: I don't think cell walls count as part of a building. Any anyway, a building is a structure that is "built." Trees are grown, not built.
OP: Okay, so even if it is a tree, I was basing my original statement on what I observed to be a building. It doesn't really matter if it isn't a building, because I thought it was a building at the time.
R: Right, but now you see that it isn't a building, but rather a tree, right? So the statement "that building is really tall" doesn't make any sense.
OP: But it still looks like a building to me, so it does make sense.
R: How does that look like a building?
OP: If you kind of tilt your head and squint your eyes it looks like a building.
R: I'm tilting my head and squinting. It still doesn't look like a building.
OP: Squint harder.
R: If I squint any harder my eyes will be closed.
OP: That's fine. Then you can just imagine that it's a building. Then you'll be able to see that it's really tall.
Original Poster: Look at the building over there. It's really tall.
Responder: What building? I don't see a building.
OP: Over there, on that hill. You don't see that building on that hill?
R: I see a tree, but no building.
OP: That's a building.
R: The tree is a building?
OP: What you're calling a tree is a building.
R: But that's not a building, it's a tree.
OP: What makes it a tree?
R: Well, it has a trunk, branches, and leaves.
OP: Not all trees have leaves. Some have needles.
R: Right, but some have leaves - like the one on the hill does. But it's irrelevant, as it doesn't matter that other trees have needles. That has leaves. That is a tree.
OP: You know, other plants besides trees have leaves. Bushes have leaves too.
R: Are you saying that it's a bush?
OP: No, I'm saying it's a building.
R: Then why did you bring up the fact that bushes have leaves?
OP: You're the one who brought up leaves. Just because it has leaves doesn't mean it's a tree.
R: Right, but buildings don't have leaves either. That thing on the hill has leaves. You see that it has leaves, right?
OP: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't be a building.
R: Well, actually it does. Buildings don't have leaves.
OP: What's the definition of a building?
R: It's generally a fixed structure that's built for a use such as a dwelling.
OP: Right, that over there is a fixed structure that birds and squirrels dwell in. It's a building.
R: A building generally has walls and a roof.
OP: The tree is made of cells that have walls, and the leaves are called a canopy, which is a type of roof.
R: I don't think cell walls count as part of a building. Any anyway, a building is a structure that is "built." Trees are grown, not built.
OP: Okay, so even if it is a tree, I was basing my original statement on what I observed to be a building. It doesn't really matter if it isn't a building, because I thought it was a building at the time.
R: Right, but now you see that it isn't a building, but rather a tree, right? So the statement "that building is really tall" doesn't make any sense.
OP: But it still looks like a building to me, so it does make sense.
R: How does that look like a building?
OP: If you kind of tilt your head and squint your eyes it looks like a building.
R: I'm tilting my head and squinting. It still doesn't look like a building.
OP: Squint harder.
R: If I squint any harder my eyes will be closed.
OP: That's fine. Then you can just imagine that it's a building. Then you'll be able to see that it's really tall.