Remembrance weekend pro Palestinian marches should they be banned?.

[exchemist]

Also very stupid. The people in power at the moment, are so desperate now, that they will sink lower and lower until they eventually hit bedrock.

Well, the good news this morning is that Braverperson has indeed been sacked.

I see some commentary that she will become a flag-bearer within the Tory party for the extreme right. I somehow doubt she will get far with that. I suspect she is far too stupid and uncharismatic to become leader of a significant group. Anyway a good thing that Sunk has finally plucked up the courage to call her bluff. He did that once before with the Daieoupaiegh, to great effect.

But it will be amusing to watch the Tory Party descend into internecine strife over her sacking, ironically as a direct consequence of their desperate gambit of trying to weaponise Remembrance Day and poppy sellers in order to make a culture war issue out of Palestine, and ignite a civil war over the issue within Starmer's Labour. This has backfired badly.

 

[England my lionheart]

Well, the good news this morning is that Braverperson has indeed been sacked.

I see some commentary that she will become a flag-bearer within the Tory party for the extreme right. I somehow doubt she will get far with that. I suspect she is far too stupid and uncharismatic to become leader of a significant group. Anyway a good thing that Sunk has finally plucked up the courage to call her bluff. He did that once before with the Daieoupaiegh, to great effect.

But it will be amusing to watch the Tory Party descend into internecine strife over her sacking, ironically as a direct consequence of their desperate gambit of trying to weaponise Remembrance Day and poppy sellers in order to make a culture war issue out of Palestine, and ignite a civil war over the issue within Starmer's Labour. This has backfired badly.

What a week it’s been,Braverman gone but the coward Cameron to replace her,can it get worse ,probably,the Rwanda debacle and failure with more to come I would think.

The BBC caught spreading misinformation again and has to apologise,Jeremy Corbyn will not call Hamas terrorists (no shocks there),a host of labour MPs including front benchers have resigned of Starmers stance on Palestine,I think they did him a favour and good riddance ,probably Keir Starmer showing some leadership and discipline is the only positive thing for anyone.

 

[exchemist]

What a week it’s been,Braverman gone but the coward Cameron to replace her,can it get worse ,probably,the Rwanda debacle and failure with more to come I would think.

The BBC caught spreading misinformation again and has to apologise,Jeremy Corbyn will not call Hamas terrorists (no shocks there),a host of labour MPs including front benchers have resigned of Starmers stance on Palestine,I think they did him a favour and good riddance ,probably Keir Starmer showing some leadership and discipline is the only positive thing for anyone.

Yes Labour 23 point ahead in the polls now, after the events of the last week.

And a marked change of tone from the government after Braverperson's departure, stressing the appalling suffering of the Palestinians, from both Sunk and Andrew Mitchell.

And finally, a bit of support for the police, from the replacement Home Sec James Cleverly.

 

[England my lionheart]

Yes Labour 23 point ahead in the polls now, after the events of the last week.

And a marked change of tone from the government after Braverperson's departure, stressing the appalling suffering of the Palestinians, from both Sunk and Andrew Mitchell.

And finally, a bit of support for the police, from the replacement Home Sec James Cleverly.

I don’t think the police need support as much as a kick in the butt,been very poor policing so far imo.

As for “the appalling suffering of the Palestinians” there’s not a mention of the suffering of the October 7th victims and families or 200 plus hostages.

The Palestinian protests are misdirected and should be aimed at Hamas and Islamic jihad if the protesters really want peace because as long as they hold the hostages there can be no ceasefire,you cannot give in to terrorism so if they release the hostages a ceasefire will follow.

Israel imo has carried out its operation and has had success,it has also shown the extent of the tunnels under the hospital showing how Hamas sacrifice the Palestinian people as shields,I hope the hostages are still alive and released asap then there will be a ceasefire.

 

[England my lionheart]

This is how you conduct a march,unlike the “free Palestine” march and help Hamas march this was more who we are,unfortunately Jeremy Corbyn or the socialist workers party didn’t turn up,wonder why,I don’t think many Muslims turned up either though.

 

[Orbit]

It's sad that all those people think that criticizing the Israeli government is "anti-semitism".

 

[Revoltingest]

It's sad that all those people think that criticizing the Israeli government is "anti-semitism".

It's the strongest argument they have to
defend apartheid, war crimes, & land theft.

 

[Yerda]

This is how you conduct a march,unlike the “free Palestine” march and help Hamas march this was more who we are,unfortunately Jeremy Corbyn or the socialist workers party didn’t turn up,wonder why,I don’t think many Muslims turned up either though.

I'd be guessing but I reckon Corbyn and the SWP didn't show up because this was a disingenuous piece of Tory theater aimed at delegitemising concern for the people being murdered, en masse, by the regime in Israel. That and the organisers have spent the past half-decade trying to terrify every Jew in the UK into believeing that Corbyn is going to re-open the gas chambers and driving left-wing Jews out of public life. Just a guess, though.

I notice that they far right did show up to give support.

 

[England my lionheart]

I'd be guessing but I reckon Corbyn and the SWP didn't show up because this was a disingenuous piece of Tory theater aimed at delegitemising concern for the people being murdered, en masse, by the regime in Israel. That and the organisers have spent the past half-decade trying to terrify every Jew in the UK into believeing that Corbyn is going to re-open the gas chambers and driving left-wing Jews out of public life. Just a guess, though.

I notice that they far right did show up to give support.

Corbyn didn’t show up because he,like the BBC will not call Hamas a terrorist group and antisemitism thrived under his leadership,the SWP are just a trotsky pogrom lovers from mother Russia,there’s probably only a couple of hundred of those in the country.

As for the far right,Tommy Robinson was arrested and the organisers didn’t want him there,so far from being a Tory plot it really was about peoples legitimate concerns rather than the free Palestine marches that achieved nothing,the people who can call ceasefires and peace are in Qatar and Israel,pointless demonstrating here.

 

[Yerda]

Corbyn didn’t show up because he,like the BBC will not call Hamas a terrorist group and antisemitism thrived under his leadership,the SWP are just a trotsky pogrom lovers from mother Russia,there’s probably only a couple of hundred of those in the country.

Corbyn has called Hamas terrorists.

I'm not a fan of the SWP either. Don't think they've done a whole lot for the world, personally.

As for the far right,Tommy Robinson was arrested and the organisers didn’t want him there,so far from being a Tory plot it really was about peoples legitimate concerns rather than the free Palestine marches that achieved nothing,the people who can call ceasefires and peace are in Qatar and Israel,pointless demonstrating here.

Fair enough.

There are things to be legitimately worried about and antisemitism is one of them. I don't think that the march will do any more to end antisemitism than demos to end the violence in Palesting will do to bring about a ceasefire, though. It's worth adding that this isn't the entire point off either campaign. To be visible and to have your say is an end in itself, don't you agree?

I'm sure the Jewish people at the march have good reason to be there. I'm not so sure that all the other people there are wholly honest in their support. I'm maybe being a bit cynical.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It's sad that all those people think that criticizing the Israeli government is "anti-semitism".

It is infuriating that you would suggest that antisemitism is insignificant, and it is disgusting to see you presume to know what "all those people think."

 

[Orbit]

It is infuriating that you would suggest that antisemitism is insignificant, and it is disgusting to see you presume to know what "all those people think."

Your ridiculous comments get old. That’s a straw man that you made up and it misrepresents what I said. But you do you, man.