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Protest in Michigan Today Over Lockdown

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Another example of limits of freedom of assembly: fire marshalls can legally limit building occupancy in places like bars, restaurants, and other public and private places, even churches.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
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Freedom of assembly is the individual right to peacefully assemble, collectively express, and petition the government for redress of grievances guaranteed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution. Freedom of assembly is often used interchangeably with the freedom of association. In general, freedom of assembly is a First Amendment right guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. First Amendment right provides that congress shall make no law abridging the right of people peaceably to assemble. However, freedom of assembly can be limited by a local legislative authority through the legitimate use of its police powers. Examples of laws which limit freedom of assembly are found in various riot acts, unlawful assembly laws, and ordinances prohibiting the blocking of sidewalks. Hence, the constitutional rights of freedom of assembly, speech and worship does not include the privilege of exercising such rights on private, undedicated, property, against the will of the owners.'

Freedom of Assembly Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
No one has stated the right to assemble is an absolute right. What I have stated, and quite correctly, is that the power of the state to restrict assemble is also not absolute. If the state attempts to restrict the rights of the people by applying such restrictions in an un-Constitutional manner it forfeits its authority to do so. The rights enumerated in the Constitution don’t derive from the Constitution but are from Providence. The rights of the people are not derived from the state. Rather the powers of the state are derived from the people.

Shalom
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Another example of limits of freedom of assembly: fire marshalls can legally limit building occupancy in places like bars, restaurants, and other public and private places, even churches.
And another example of an un-Constitutional limit would be a fire marshal that only subjected certain groups. Any fire marshal that only enforced building occupancy codes based on racial or religious factors would and should be repudiated.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
What shes doing is deciding what is essential and not essential, and that is a big mistake in light of what has been declared as being non-essential.
There is always going to be debate on which is which, but she has shown that she is willing to listen to experts on this and switch if necessary, such as she did with the motorized boats per police and Coast Guard recommendations.

Another thing is people will have a lot more respect for a person that leads by example themselves.
And when hasn't she supposedly done that? BTW, she just took a pay cut that she levied on herself.

If the economy collapses, because of this massive overkill on peoples means and ways, you know full well what the rhetoric will be from the left as the shift from saving lives changes to how lives are now destroyed from a collapsed and unviable market system.
Not according to the economists I've listened to, including Nobel Prize recipient Joseph Stiglitz.

To open prematurely could be a recipe for disaster, as if the outbreak gets worse through opening up too soon, shutting it down again could cause even more serious problems. This is what the Swedes did, and now they're paying the price with an acceleration of the virus that is times higher than most of the other Scandinavian countries.

I listen much more to the medical and economic experts, thus not so much the politicians on either side of the aisle.
 
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