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Genesis...flupke said:Come on, all you creationists and intelligent designists ! I know you have it...
Come up with a well formulated proof against evolution.
Mmm, a strong creationist here. You are taking an arbitrarily chosen book as 'proof'. If you want to use it as real proof, though, you'll first have to prove that it's true. As you will most likely say you 'believe' it to be true, and can never prove it, you can therefore NOT use it as proof against an alternative theory. That's plain logic.dawny0826 said:Genesis...
Pick a version...any version...King James, NIV, NLT...
You're obviously mistaken:Abram said:There is no proof against evolution. Thats to broad of a statment. There is somesorts of evolution we can see today (dogs, cats, ect...)
Darwinism is almost dead though. There is a ton of science that works against it. Cambrain explosion, DNA, and there is zero fossil evidence.
And logic is everything, isn't it?flupke said:Mmm, a strong creationist here. You are taking an arbitrarily chosen book as 'proof'. If you want to use it as real proof, though, you'll first have to prove that it's true. As you will most likely say you 'believe' it to be true, and can never prove it, you can therefore NOT use it as proof against an alternative theory. That's plain logic.
In talking about 'proof', yes.dawny0826 said:And logic is everything, isn't it?
But it put the Darwin tree upside down, bringing the more dominate animals first.flupke said:You're obviously mistaken:
1. the explosion means there was a lot of speciation on a short time. It means there was a strong pressure on evolution. It's an indication of a specific mechanism, not evidence against it. On the contrary, stating that there was a lot of speciation in a short time (relatively speaking) does not mean a creator made them in that time.
Do your homework on this one. It walks in to irreducible complexity.2. One of the latest issues of the journal "science" reflects on the greatest achievements of 2005. This is chosen to be the complete genomic data from various organisms. Everything supports evolution; nothing contradicts it. On the contrary, it revealed a lot of new more detailed mechanisms.
Of course ther are fossils, you'ld be a fool to ignore that. But there is not evidence of a missing link or the in between3. There are fossils, therefore it cannot be 'zero'.
Are you really sure that's how you want to define God?sandy whitelinger said:God is energy.
sandy whitelinger said:How about we start with proof that God exists?
Albert Einsteins equation states that Energy = Mass x C2. The law of physics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Which means the energy that created the universe cannot have a beginning nor an end. Also, there must be something that existed before the universe and that will continue to exist after the universe. That is the definition of God.
How about we start with proof that God exists?
Albert Einsteins equation states that Energy = Mass x C2. The law of physics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Which means the energy that created the universe cannot have a beginning nor an end. Also, there must be something that existed before the universe and that will continue to exist after the universe. That is the definition of God.
Also, there must be something that existed before the universe and that will continue to exist after the universe. That is the definition of God.[/
By applying Albert Einsteins formula, the universe must have a creator because the universe has mass (M). God does not need a creator because God does not have mass (M). God is energy (E).
Thus when people ask the question, If God created mankind, who created God?, they mistakenly imagine God as having a form or mass. Only mass needs a creator, not energy.
No it doesn't. All animals 'dominate' at the time of their existence. If they weren't, they would be extinct. At any time, 'domination' means to be fully adapted to the THEN existing pressures. So no problem there.Abram said:But it put the Darwin tree upside down, bringing the more dominate animals first.
YOU do your homework and read what leading scientists have to say this month about genomic data and how it conforms well to the theory of evolution.Do your homework on this one. It walks in to irreducible complexity.
Every new fossil was a previous 'missing link'. Each time we find a fossil of an extinct species, it again confirms evolutionary theory, selection mechanisms competing out unadapted organisms for which only fossils remain.Of course ther are fossils, you'ld be a fool to ignore that. But there is not evidence of a missing link or the in between
sandy whitelinger said:How about we start with proof that God exists?
Albert Einsteins equation states that Energy = Mass x C2. The law of physics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Which means the energy that created the universe cannot have a beginning nor an end. Also, there must be something that existed before the universe and that will continue to exist after the universe. That is the definition of God.
Prove that 'that which has a mass must be created'. Unproven premise.By applying Albert Einsteins formula, the universe must have a creator because the universe has mass (M). God does not need a creator because God does not have mass (M). God is energy (E).
prove it. Don't use an unproven and completely assumed nitwit-premise as proof.Thus when people ask the question, If God created mankind, who created God?, they mistakenly imagine God as having a form or mass. Only mass needs a creator, not energy.
When did he do this Flappy?Flappycat said:Behe has apprently withdrawn his support for his original conception of "irreducible complexity" and has yet to come up with anything to replace it.
Mass isn't always conserved...Anyone with a basic knowledge of nuclear physics would say that mass isn't conserved in nuclear reactions... BTW... hi everyone!!!ch'ang said:The part that I bolded is the last logical line in your post, after that it is a series of contradictions and misunderstandings.
I don't see how you can draw that conclusion from the law of conservation of mass-energy. Also since mass and energy can't be destroyed only changed the universe will never end, it will just continue expanding forever according to the current theory.
Mass and energy are the same thing just different sides to the same coin as proven by Einsteins theory that you used above so saying mass needs a creator while energy doesn't is just silly. Also the law of conservation of mass-energy says that neither can be created or destroyed get your facts right.
See my above point, you seem to have a sever misunderstanding of physics.