Pope says anti-maskers stuck in ‘their own little world of interests’

[Left Coast]

"Orange Man Bad"

The Orange Man is bad, but that wouldn't explain why some governor would consciously try to ruin the economy of their own state. Again, your understanding of how people on the other side of the aisle think is severely lacking.

 

[Father Heathen]

Hah! One of the best POTUS we ever had. You only believe he failed because libtards tanked the economy and kept up masks to keep people scared.

I know. To the detriment of society, law and order. You guys are a joke. Repeating all the mistakes of the past.

Definitely not the MSM.

"Orange Man Bad"

Ooooh. Now I get it. You're doing a parody of the drunken-redneck-uncle-on-facebook trope, right?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Maybe you should try talking to us, instead of listening to what right-wing media sources tell you about us.

Who is "us"?

 

[Zaha Torte]

The Orange Man is bad, but that wouldn't explain why some governor would consciously try to ruin the economy of their own state. Again, your understanding of how people on the other side of the aisle think is severely lacking.

Their hatred for the Orange Man does explain it. It has driven them crazy. Trump's main selling point was the economy so they did whatever they could to destroy it.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Ooooh. Now I get it. You're doing a parody of the drunken-redneck-uncle-on-facebook trope, right?

I live in Southern California. I don't drink. I don't have a Facebook account. But I am an uncle. You got me there.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So it's ok to assemble en masse when you are protesting against unfounded claims of racism - but not okay if you want to protest grievous government abuse of power and overreach?

I've known the Pope ain't a guy to trust ever since he backed Hitler in WW2. No thanks.

You are pretty much proving his point. People are protested an especially heinous execution of a black male despite the risks, and yet here people like you complain a mask is an over reach, when rely it doesnt evem effect you. You wear a mask. Big whoop.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Their hatred for the Orange Man does explain it. It has driven them crazy. Trump's main selling point was the economy so they did whatever they could to destroy it.

We had a massive economy here in California. Why would we slam yhe emergency brakes and put a halt on what would one of the largest economies in the world if we were our own nation if it wasn't for a very serious danger amd threat?

 

[Zaha Torte]

You are pretty much proving his point. People are protested an especially heinous execution of a black male despite the risks, and yet here people like you complain a mask is an over reach, when rely it doesnt evem effect you. You wear a mask. Big whoop.

Execution is a bit of a stretch. The man died from all the drugs in his system - not the knee to the neck. Yet the cop was still in the wrong.

An individual made a bad choice. Well two if you count Floyd. The "system" or "government" did not kill him.

Our Constitutional rights don't just disappear when there is a pandemic. The mandatory lockdowns and mask wearing violates everyone's rights.

 

[Zaha Torte]

We had a massive economy here in California. Why would we slam yhe emergency brakes and put a halt on what would one of the largest economies in the world if we were our own nation if it wasn't for a very serious danger amd threat?

To hurt Donald Trump.

The politicians don't care about their constituents. They continually violate all the rules they themselves make up to oppress us.

You can't open your business - unless Pelosi needs her hair blown out.

You can't gather with family and friends - unless you're Governor Newsom.

Defund the police - but call on them to defend me in my mansion if the scary mobs get too close.

They literally do not believe the hype they are generating. They don't believe COVID is as dangerous as they claim. They don't believe the police are an issue.

They just need to support a narrative and they die on the lie.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Execution is a bit of a stretch.

He knelt on his kneck for sever minutes.
It was an execution.

An individual made a bad choice. Well two if you count Floyd. The "system" or "government" did not kill him.

And yet it's a system that has tolerated it for a very long time.

Our Constitutional rights don't just disappear when there is a pandemic.

You have no right to not wear a mask. You have no right to endanger others.

Our Constitutional rights don't just disappear when there is a pandemic. The mandatory lockdowns and mask wearing violates everyone's rights.

No, they don't. The masks are a mear inconvenience and nothing more. The lockdowns are so we aren't overwhelmed medically and our ability to treat everything greatly deminished. It's game over with if that happens as people die from things they otherwise would have been saved from had people not insisted on spreading a deadly virus.

To hurt Donald Trump.

That would require skin just as thin as Trump's, amd just as juvenile a mindset. That just isn't the case, especially when the world locked down.

The politicians don't care about their constituents. They continually violate all the rules they themselves make up to oppress us.

You can't open your business - unless Pelosi needs her hair blown out.

You can't gather with family and friends - unless you're Governor Newsom.

Defund the police - but call on them to defend me in my mansion if the scary mobs get too close.

They literally do not believe the hype they are generating. They don't believe COVID is as dangerous as they claim. They don't believe the police are an issue.

They just need to support a narrative and they die on the lie.

Pelosi was set up and misrepresented. Newsome repented. This thread isn't about police or 9/11, but because of covid and people whining about their rights during a deadly.pandemic involving an extremely contagious virus this has been an especially deadly year for law enforcement.

 

[Zaha Torte]

He knelt on his kneck for sever minutes.
It was an execution.

He had lethal doses of fentanyl in his system and he had been screaming that he couldn't breathe long before that officer touched him.

I'm not saying that the officer didn't do anything wrong or that his actions did not contribute to Floyd's death.

I'm just saying that it wasn't an execution. No one would have been surprised to find him dead in his home due to the amount of deadly drugs in his system.

And yet it's a system that has tolerated it for a very long time.

A system that fires or prosecutes officers who commit crimes is not one that "tolerates" these things.

You have no right to not wear a mask. You have no right to endanger others.

It feels a lot like 1984 up in here.

Those who are sick or who are susceptible should stay home and quarantine themselves.

Healthy individuals should keep living and working.

It's governors like Cuomo putting COVID positive patients in nursing homes we should be taking freedoms from - not everyone else.

No, they don't. The masks are a mear inconvenience and nothing more.

An inconvenience that the US government has no authority to enforce and puts us on a slippery slope.

The lockdowns are so we aren't overwhelmed medically and our ability to treat everything greatly deminished.

That's what they were. Now that we understand the virus better we don't need to lock anything down anymore.

It's game over with if that happens as people die from things they otherwise would have been saved from had people not insisted on spreading a deadly virus.

it's only deadly to the old and weak. Quarantine them. Not everyone.

That would require skin just as thin as Trump's, amd just as juvenile a mindset. That just isn't the case, especially when the world locked down.

Even thinner skin and more juvenile a mindset. The entire world did not lock down like we did.

Pelosi was set up and misrepresented.

Hilarious.

She was forced to have her assistant call ahead and make an appointment and had a gun to her head forcing her to take off her mask as she walked around in a business that should have been closed as per her instructions.

"Rules for thee but not for me" Talk about denial.

Newsome repented.

Irrelevant. The fact that he did it at all proves that he does not believe his own hype about the deadliness of this virus. If he actually feared for his or someone else' life he never would have done it.

Again with the "Rules for thee but not for me" attitude.

And it's funny that liberals and Democrats are allowed to repent - but conservatives and Republicans (especially Trump) slip up once and they can never live it down.

This thread isn't about police or 9/11, but because of covid and people whining about their rights during a deadly.pandemic involving an extremely contagious virus this has been an especially deadly year for law enforcement.

People targeting police because they have been lied to about racial issues, statistics and COVID is what has led to this misery in law enforcement.

 

[Father Heathen]

.
That would require skin just as thin as Trump's, amd just as juvenile a mindset. That just isn't the case, especially when the world locked down.

That's a good point. If masks, social distancing, shut downs, etc. Were all part of some goofy, nonsensical conspiracy against Trump, why would so many other nations in the world partake in these practices? What would they have to gain? And why would anyone take such risk or make such sacrifice just to "hurt Trump", especially when he was already doing a stellar job of hurting himself?

 

[Father Heathen]

- but conservatives and Republicans (especially Trump) slip up once and they can never live it down.

Admitting a mistake, apologizing for it, and then accepting accountability is key. Have they done this?

 

[Left Coast]

Who is "us"?

You tell me your the one who started making sweeping statements, including insults. I assume you meant lefties. Or were you lumping me in another category?

 

[Left Coast]

Their hatred for the Orange Man does explain it. It has driven them crazy. Trump's main selling point was the economy so they did whatever they could to destroy it.

But destroying it destroys them also. So again, they would have no reason to do that. You just fundamentally don't know what's going on, it seems.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

He's a Jesuit snake.

He is both honest and wise, he cares about people and their welfare.

 

[Fool]

Pope says anti-maskers stuck in 'their own little world of interests'

Pope Francis has taken aim at protests against coronavirus restrictions, contrasting them with the “healthy indignation” seen in demonstrations against racism after the death of George Floyd.

“Some groups protested, refusing to keep their distance, marching against travel restrictions – as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their people constitute some kind of political assault on autonomy or personal freedom,” he said in a new book.

He railed against those who claim “that being forced to wear a mask is an unwarranted imposition by the state”.

“You’ll never find such people protesting the death of George Floyd, or joining a demonstration because there are shantytowns where children lack water or education, or because there are whole families who have lost their income,” he said. “On such matters they would never protest; they are incapable of moving outside of their own little world of interests.”

The book, Let Us Dream: A Path to a Better Future, is derived from conversations with his British biographer Austen Ivereigh, and is largely centred on his response to the coronavirus crisis.

“With some exceptions, governments have made great efforts to put the wellbeing of their people first, acting decisively to protect health and to save lives,” the pope said.

However, he added that some had put the economy before public health. “Those governments have mortgaged their people,” he said.

The death in police custody of Floyd a 44-year-old African American man, triggered a wave of anti-racism protests in the US and around the world.

The pope again condemned the “horrendous” death and hailed how “many people who otherwise did not know each other took to the streets to protest, united by a healthy indignation.”​

you're either service to self or service to all as self


matthew 25:31-46

 

[BilliardsBall]

Pope says anti-maskers stuck in 'their own little world of interests'

Pope Francis has taken aim at protests against coronavirus restrictions, contrasting them with the “healthy indignation” seen in demonstrations against racism after the death of George Floyd.

“Some groups protested, refusing to keep their distance, marching against travel restrictions – as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their people constitute some kind of political assault on autonomy or personal freedom,” he said in a new book.

He railed against those who claim “that being forced to wear a mask is an unwarranted imposition by the state”.

“You’ll never find such people protesting the death of George Floyd, or joining a demonstration because there are shantytowns where children lack water or education, or because there are whole families who have lost their income,” he said. “On such matters they would never protest; they are incapable of moving outside of their own little world of interests.”

The book, Let Us Dream: A Path to a Better Future, is derived from conversations with his British biographer Austen Ivereigh, and is largely centred on his response to the coronavirus crisis.

“With some exceptions, governments have made great efforts to put the wellbeing of their people first, acting decisively to protect health and to save lives,” the pope said.

However, he added that some had put the economy before public health. “Those governments have mortgaged their people,” he said.

The death in police custody of Floyd a 44-year-old African American man, triggered a wave of anti-racism protests in the US and around the world.

The pope again condemned the “horrendous” death and hailed how “many people who otherwise did not know each other took to the streets to protest, united by a healthy indignation.”​

Speaking as a born again Christian, your health, neighbor, trumps my civil liberties, and masks are fine, but Francis's ENTIRE WORLD is "a little world of bizarre/heretical theological interests". That's the Pope calling the kettle black.

 

[metis]

I wear a mask, but I don't like to call people out on it. I see that as authoritarian.

Do you object to all laws then?

 

[metis]

...but Francis's ENTIRE WORLD is "a little world of bizarre/heretical theological interests".

Such as...?

While your at it, did you support Trump?