Kristoffer
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What could be an answer towards a question like this: "Can God create something bigger than himself?"
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Paradox: Can God create something bigger than himself?
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Ouroboros
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Well, I think the answer is that God isn't a "something" so something, or anything, can't be bigger or smaller. Put it this way. Which is bigger, time or a banana? What is smaller, electrical current or a chair? What I'm saying is that God isn't comparable to things. What size does the taste in ice cream have?
You are starting with God and trying to explain reasoning, where I think God is actually the answer to the question. I assume you are starting with God as the beginning, nothing came before. Yet ancient religions saw something that preceded even this - a type of primordial chaos. I envision this as something beyond all logic and imagining - all possibility and non-possibility. Out of this, somehow, was birthed the contradiction and the answer - God. You see, chaos as all things cannot itself be defined unless there is something to define it against: order. God is the order in the primordial Chaos. What I am getting at is that there is, by definition, something bigger than God.
Baladas
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I can lick my elbow. Hyperflexible joints.
Ouroboros
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Baladas
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Well, I do have a long tongue, but the reason I can do this is that I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. It causes hypermobility, and has been called "the contortionist's disease". It's a rare genetic disorder that sucks in almost every way. It's only good for bragging about things like this.
Well done.
Ouroboros
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So I was right then? You are Mr Fantastic.Well, I do have a long tongue, but the reason I can do this is that I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. It causes hypermobility, and has been called "the contortionist's disease". It's a rare genetic disorder that sucks in almost every way. It's only good for bragging about things like this.
(I knew there was some truth to that story. Everyone tells me it's fiction, but I just knew it must be more...)
Ouroboros
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That too.
If God is everything, and God creates something, then that something is also part of God.
How big is the universe? As big as it is, and it's growing.
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Unveiled Artist
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No. I heard this before, I think this is another way of saying can God do something against His own nature. For example, can He lie (pick up something heavy) even though He never lies (nothing is "bigger" than God for Him to pick up anything bigger than Himself) type of thing.
If I said yes, that would be saying in different ways, God can lie, break a promise, and do things that in scripture states He can't do. That would be interesting, though, because He would be sinning if He did.
Ouroboros
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If the lie would bring about something greater and better, wouldn't the lie be beneficial for the greater good?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Sure. I guess you can entertain that God lied in His promise but because it brought greater good (excluding the inquisition for now) its well worth the belief?
Id be uncomfortable living a lie. The Church brought out the greater good in me; helped me a lot. However, because I dont believe in God living that lie by staying in the Christian faith to me is worse than living without that greater good.
So it may beneficial for some but I wouldnt say all of course.
Id be uncomfortable living a lie. The Church brought out the greater good in me; helped me a lot. However, because I dont believe in God living that lie by staying in the Christian faith to me is worse than living without that greater good.
So it may beneficial for some but I wouldnt say all of course.
Ouroboros
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It seems to be to those who believe that the world was created 6,000 years ago and reject the insurmountable evidence to the contrary. Science shows that the world is older. There's no doubt about it. If God indeed did create the world only 6,000 years ago and made all nature tell us a lie about its true age, then God is indeed a liar. Either the world is older than 6,000 years old or God has planted deceptive evidence that the world is older.
I'm not sure I understood your last sentence.
If God told a lie, we wouldn't necessarily know. Perhaps God thinks it benefits us to live a lie that we don't know is a lie. People believing things that are not true, but they don't know, because it somehow works out better in the end.