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Omnipresence and Panpsychism

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Fool

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    If a god is omnipresent, would it then also imply panpsychism?
     
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    God is All we are in God, I see it this way, panpsychism? imo, makes sense.
     
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    so then is it pantheism, or panentheism?
     
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    where word "ALL" fits.
     
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    Only if you believe "god" implies "consciousness." The case can certainly be made, but "consciousness" is such a nebulous and overused word, I'm not sure application of the term is very useful.
     
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    how about intelligence then?
     
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    Haha... that word is just about as problematic as "consciousness" in being nebulous and overused. :D
     
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    I suppose I could say yes, but that would be a bit disingenuous. I believe there is one mind which creates an infinite number of images. There is no mind in the images, but they are of and in mind.
     
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    Well, fully self-aware consciousness then. But be advised I don't have a dog in this fight, I mean, it's pure speculation whether God exists or doesn't, much less wondering what It's personal life is like.
     
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    OK, so from your perspective could you think of something less nebulous and overused that might be fitting.

    i'm always open to other perspectives
     
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    I'm not sure I have a different word that would retain the spirit of what you were getting at.

    One of the issues I have with words like "intelligence" and "consciousness" is that they are umbrella terms. There are so many different forms they take, but it's a one-size-fits-all word in terms of how we use it. The "consciousness" (if you want to use that word) of an omnipresent entity is dramatically different than the "consciousness" of a river, a squirrel, or a human. If they are so different from one another, does it make sense to use the same word? If it does, what does that word really mean, then?

    I don't have a good answer.
     
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    i understand where you're coming from now. like mathematics is not just 1+1 but also calculus; which is dramatically different. calculus includes 1+1 but calculus is much more intricate than just 1+1 and mathematics even more so.

    sometimes nebulous is ok too; otherwise we always lose sight of the forest for the trees.

    thank you for sharing and being present with us trees at times and with the forest at others.
     
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    Could.
     
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